Looking for my first airbrush. Please help me

In what you have been mentioning I would go with the Eclipse CS and get the .5mm conversion in addition to the .35mm it comes with. It will give you the ability that you are talking about without having to buy two Airbrushes. The .35mm will give you plenty of detail ability. Latter down the road you can invest in a even finer detail brush like the B.

The C+ is a .3mm needle and the difference between the Eclipse .35mm and a .3mm in the C+ is not a huge difference. Don't waist you money on two brushes like they tried to sell you on.


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MarcosD said:

Search miniature painting ( warhammer games, less than an inch miniatures), in youtube, you will see for yourself wich is the prefer airbrush for that kind of work!!


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Well..just searched for a bit...can't really seem to figure out which is the most used one, FOund two guys with H&S Ultra, one with the Eclipse, one with the Evo. What's the most used one?...help me a bit


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Maple Art said:

I have to agree with Dave and Valdimir, I can not imagine what the guy was talking about "damaging" the Eclipse from "over use" makes no sense to me at all... as a retailer, honestly, the first question that came to mind was... are they out of stock? trying to up-sell you?

For your first airbrush I would highly suggest staying away from the .15 or .2 needle/nozzle combinations, until you learn about paint reductions and techniques. Search around the forum and one of the most asked questions is about paint reductions and the frustrations people experience when they are starting out. Smaller needle/nozzle combinations do not necessarily mean better detailing for a first time airbrusher.

The cheaper airbrushes or Chinese knock off brushes; stay away from them (just my opinion guys). I can't tell you how many people contact me and they simply can not get the airbrush to work properly, they need parts, they can't find replacements for the brush...more often then not, I end up selling them the Eclipse CS.

You are just starting out, again I would just say get the eclipse... save the headache and spray on You can pull some very fine lines and details with the CS, but start at the first, step learn the basics, get the reductions, practice and details will come as you learn trigger control and your skills increase.

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In what you have been mentioning I would go with the Eclipse CS and get the .5mm conversion in addition to the .35mm it comes with. It will give you the ability that you are talking about without having to buy two Airbrushes. The .35mm will give you plenty of detail ability. Latter down the road you can invest in a even finer detail brush like the B.

The C+ is a .3mm needle and the difference between the Eclipse .35mm and a .3mm in the C+ is not a huge difference. Don't waist you money on two brushes like they tried to sell you on.


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Hmmm...the HP-C+ I've found for sale had a .2mm needle/nozzle on it.

Well...the think is he didn't try selling me anything. He was out of stock on everything besides one Chinese model. He actually recommended a cheap airbrush ...a starter one like the H&S Ultra that has a .2mm ....and told me to use that for detail....and a Chinese one that I should use for bigger coverage.


The only thing I'm afraid is that if I buy the Eclipse and won't be able to get fine enough lines for my scale models I will get frustrated that I didn't get one with a smaller needle/nozzle. I do not know if I will be able to buy a new airbrush any time soon after I buy this one. The good airbrushes are quite expensive here. The Eclipse is around 200$ and the HP-C+ is around 250$.


I saw a guy on you tube that was painting really nice models...I aspire to get such models one day...and he was using the Infinity...that's why I've been thinking about an airbrush with a .2mm needle. I haven't seen a model painted entirely with the Eclipse, for example so I can get an idea of what I can do with it.


Plasmo is the guy...and this is a video that I've just seen:




If you look at 7:45 he is using an Infinity for detail work and at 3:51 he seems to be using a cheaper airbrush.


I am really overthinking this but I really want to get an airbrush that I won't have to replace in about one year because It can't do what I need. That's why I am thinking about these options. That's why I thought about spending a bit more and getting an Infinity/HP-C+ and another AB.

How's the .2mm HP-C+ compared to the Infinity? Apparently more ppl lean towards Iwata. Also..how is the HP-C+ compared to the Eclipse.

Is it better to get one Eclipse and that's t or is it better to get a .2mm HP-C+ and one cheaper AB that will be used just for spraying?



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Mihai said:

Well..just searched for a bit...can't really seem to figure out which is the most used one, FOund two guys with H&S Ultra, one with the Eclipse, one with the Evo. What's the most used one?...help me a bit


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That is the thing!! All of the airbrush mentioned above are great for the work that you want to do, it will be ONLY your personal feeling with them what will decide witch is the best for you!!!
I've got the HP-CS an evolution and CMSB, and if same day I return to paint miniature and models the Evolution will be MY way to go, just because the felling in my hand, not because it is better or worse just because I get used to it and like it more and that Is what make it a better airbrush to me.

PD: It is a pain in the ass to get H&S parts to me and that is a fact to have into account when you buy one airbrush.

Hope that helps


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I have pretty much given all I can give in regard to the brushes involved here. The last thing I will mention is that in the video, you are not seeing what the airbrush is capable of doing, you are seeing what the operator is capable of doing with it. I have $18 brushes that I could (and do) use right alongside my $450 plus Microns...

It's impossible to tell what airbrush he using in the beginning. In the end you will need to decide which way to go the person in the video is exceptionally talented and and experienced in scale model building and demonstrates that in the video. It takes time and practice to achieve that skill.

All great points. The main thing is whatever one you buy is to practice to get a good feel for trigger response and what air pressure and paint reduction you want. All can do real fine detail. The Eclipse will just need a bit more sensitive touch because of a slightly larger needle. The main thing to think about here is overall cost not only to buy, but to use. I love my Eclipse CS and would not part with it for nothing.


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I am also a scalemodeller and if I should just pick one of my airbrushes it would be the HP-CS. Why?
1 It work most consitent with both laquer paint and acrylics.
2. It has minimal issues with dry tip or spattering.
3 It sprays a mix of paint where I need to thin more even with the 0.4 infinity. I have tried the same mix on both.
4 In two years it has never clogged, something the Infinity does on regular basis.
5 The needle is very strong, something the H&S needles not are.

The detail you get is impressive being 0.35. I get better detail with this then with the 0.2 infinity, due to the reason I can spray on lower pressure and move closer without getting spidering.

So I highly recommend the HP-CS