Identitfy the KO Airbrush and other help please

Sorry Bob, i misread what you were posting. If your not having any issues that's great, but I know some folks do. Learning without hassle makes airbrushing that much easier. The ideal viscosity for paint is like skimmed milk if that helps.

I've made and used my own reducer too in the past, 90ml distilled water, 30ml IPA and a few drops of Glycerine. I used an Auto Air 4oz bottle for storage but it could be stepped up for bulk. Worked well with Auto Air and Spectra-Tex paint. I also found some automotive water based "waterborne"reducer called Pro-Spray H2O made by Valspar that worked well with Trident paints, Wicked, Auto Air, Spectra-Tex.
Airbrush paint is so expensive I agree, initial cost is high but thankfully they last a while so I can live with that.

Enjoy your airbrushing and post up what you paint, we would like to see what you create.

Lee

No worries.. my communication skills can become suspect at times...

i dont think ill be sharing anything within the next year. Im going back to basics and doing the tutorials on youtube with that entertaining aussie.. it lead me to this site.. i tried to jump in and airbrush like i was using a pencil and paint brush...doing everything freehand.. no stencils, not even airbrushing over traces.. it caused a lot of frustration.... dagger stroke etc etc?!?.. never heard of it... but damn its pretty useful... so last week i i found that aussie and ive been doing dots for the most part since.

i dont get a lot of time everyday to practice or id be on lines by now... but im trying the 10k rule.. was it 10k of anything and you start to get good?? hopefully im okay with just 10k dots total and i dont start putting them into subs like size shades and blends.. when i do break from dots its daggers though.. but mainly i just stick with dots.. my body control was horrible and i find myself standing to airbrush now rather than sitting down like i was.. basically trying to build up muscle memory... i hate thinking..
 
We're not bothered if you post pics of dots and daggers. We encourage folks to post up anything they paint as a digital reference and if they need help we are here to help.

Lee
 
We're not bothered if you post pics of dots and daggers. We encourage folks to post up anything they paint as a digital reference and if they need help we are here to help.

Lee

yeah maybe this weekend or next when i have a full day to myself. family man i am....

Finally got around to using the.5mm and .8mm in this gun today... i really like the .5mm a lot.. so im thinking about buying a second chinese wonder so i can have a .5mm and another size ready to go.. instead of having to stop and fiddle....i may start a thread for advice..idk... the .8mm wasnt bad.. i can see me using it for larger areas for sure.. both the .5 and .8 pushed a thicker mix of paint fairly easy..

having a 5mm then either a 3mm or smaller or a .8 or larger waiting in the wings depending on what im doing sounds like a plan.. i may try a side feed siphon/gravity combo, idk.. top feed seems okay... i do want to try the threaded nozzles tips for sure..
 
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HeHeHe, and it begins... there are several of us that like to have a "few" additional brushes :)

Nah, its not like that at all, even if i wanted it to be. Its more about function, saving a little time and also having a back up. I can justify that purchase under those conditions. I wish i could just buy a bunch of different guns and not really worry. i mean, I'd really like to cut the spring down a notch or two in the one i have now, but im scared i'll ruin it. I do need to find some sort of mold for the trigger though.

Second gun has to be cheap too. One thing i do find annoying about the top feed is when i get in close im looking from the side. Ive seen some side loaders thatll correct that issue, but i know nothing about them. You seem to know a lot. Do you know if they require high psi levels? even if i just use the gravity the majority of the time? I do like how i can get by on low psi with the top load though.

the side feed gravity/siphon combo i was looking at is this no name.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Multi-Pu...719702?hash=item28350cbf56:g:yekAAOSwY3BZIr28

i buy on ebay, just so i get that ebay and paypal protection. ill send the brush back 20 times for a straight nozzle/needle if need be or get my money back and try again. I could get it cheaper if i order direct from china without all the extras, but i dont want to wait 20-60 days. Plus, if something is wrong, i prefer to send it back locally. So ebay is a must.

If its not going to be that one, Ill probably just get another cheap local ebay top loader
 
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That one from the link just the same AB that was my first one. It's extremely convenient in hand, I think it's what you're looking for.
But some issues with it. Cup and bottle have rubber O-rings so the brush is for waterbased only. Actually, that was the reason I've sold it, I use urethanes.
Don't expect great performance from it, but taking into account what you have now, this AB you're going to like more, I suppose.
With the cup it does not require higher PSI as in this case it's gravity feed, with the bottle it becomes siphon, so higher PSI required.
Remembering how I liked this brush for the convenience, last year I'd bought japanese brushes of alike appearance. Appearance is similar, but the performance is very different.
 
That one from the link just the same AB that was my first one. It's extremely convenient in hand, I think it's what you're looking for.
But some issues with it. Cup and bottle have rubber O-rings so the brush is for waterbased only. Actually, that was the reason I've sold it, I use urethanes.
Don't expect great performance from it, but taking into account what you have now, this AB you're going to like more, I suppose.
With the cup it does not require higher PSI as in this case it's gravity feed, with the bottle it becomes siphon, so higher PSI required.
Remembering how I liked this brush for the convenience, last year I'd bought japanese brushes of alike appearance. Appearance is similar, but the performance is very different.

Thanks Vladimir.

Was this airbrush able to use those cheap replacement tips on ebay?
 
Put here the link, maybe it would be possible to say something.
Basically, in this brush 0.2 and 0.3mm setups can be used. Air nozzle remains the same for both setups. You need to change only the paint nozzles and needles. But as far as I remember, it was even enough to change only the paint nozzle while the needle remained the same. I used this brush a long time ago, so can't say for sure.
 
I am afraid you will geet in trouble with the tube paint in combination with a 0.2 set up , the pigment may not be fine enough for that size
 
I am afraid you will geet in trouble with the tube paint in combination with a 0.2 set up , the pigment may not be fine enough for that size

I dont even know if ill use the .2, ill try it out at some point. I wish i wouldnt have put off trying the .5 for so long. I was under the assumption the .3 would be more detailed. I swear im getting the same detail level as a .3 but with betta color since my mix is a little thicker. I think ill set up this brush with the.5 and the one i have now as a .8 or a .3 with thinner paints.. idk something like that.

Plus if i do like .2 for whatever reason and my paint is causing me issues, ill get better paint one day. im just at practice stage, i will be here for a long time.
 
I am afraid you will geet in trouble with the tube paint in combination with a 0.2 set up , the pigment may not be fine enough for that size

Definitely!
I then used diluted tube acrylics and working with 0.2mm setup was not possible (almost immediate clogging). 0.3mm was better and 0.5 was the best. But what kind of detail can be achieved with 0.5? Especially with chinese AB.

I bought a lot of those chinese knock-offs then, but right after I've tried my first Iwata (it was HP-SB+) almost all of them were sold, only bottom feed models were left, those kinda Eclipse knock-off with 0.5mm setup.
Knowing how great good brush performance was, I'd never buy chinese ABs for the start. But I wanted to try if I like ABing and could not afford any Iwata then, so choice was among knock-offs. The price for one Iwata was equal then to 10 knock-offs.
 
Put here the link, maybe it would be possible to say something.
Basically, in this brush 0.2 and 0.3mm setups can be used. Air nozzle remains the same for both setups. You need to change only the paint nozzles and needles. But as far as I remember, it was even enough to change only the paint nozzle while the needle remained the same. I used this brush a long time ago, so can't say for sure.

I ordered one, it should be here sometime next week. Ill post some specs when i get it. thanks again
 
Definitely!
I then used diluted tube acrylics and working with 0.2mm setup was not possible (almost immediate clogging). 0.3mm was better and 0.5 was the best. But what kind of detail can be achieved with 0.5? Especially with chinese AB.

I bought a lot of those chinese knock-offs then, but right after I've tried my first Iwata (it was HP-SB+) almost all of them were sold, only bottom feed models were left, those kinda Eclipse knock-off with 0.5mm setup.
Knowing how great good brush performance was, I'd never buy chinese ABs for the start. But I wanted to try if I like ABing and could not afford any Iwata then, so choice was among knock-offs. The price for one Iwata was equal then to 10 knock-offs.

Yeah i cant afford a 150-200+ hundred dollar brush atm. If i already had a compressor to start, maybe it would have been a little different. my hobbies generally take a back seat to my family needs and wants. I had been wanting an airbrush for years but i didnt want a tankless compressor, so its been a long wait. All my stuff was basically Bday/Fathers days and then some all rolled into one.

If i made money using it, or had been doing it for several years, i could possibly justify upscaling to better gear..... At this point, i just cant. Happy wife, sane life.
 
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Yeah i cant afford a 150-200+ hundred dollar brush atm. If i already had a compressor to start, maybe it would have been a little different. my hobbies generally take a back seat to my family needs and wants. I had been wanting an airbrush for years but i didnt want a tankless compressor, so its been a long wait. All my stuff was basically Bday/Fathers days and then some all rolled into one.

If i made money using it, or had been doing it for several years, i could possibly justify upscaling to better gear..... At this point, i just cant. Happy wife, sane life.

Your situation reminds me mine when I first was buying AB stuff. Though I had good italian 24l tank compressor then.
Tankless compressor is definitely no good, you're right not buying it.
With all my heart, don't buy a lot of cheap airbrushes. Dozens of them will not give you a result of one Iwata, starting with Eclipse and more expensive series. Spare some money for Eclipse and you'll be surprised how good the AB is. Sometimes there are good lots on e-bay.
I understand that money is short for now. I hope your situation will change for better one as soon as possible.
In my situation no wife no family life. If it would be another situation I think it would be like yours. And I wouldn't experiment with ABs as I do now. But who knows...
 
Nah, its not like that at all, even if i wanted it to be. Its more about function, saving a little time and also having a back up. I can justify that purchase under those conditions. I wish i could just buy a bunch of different guns and not really worry. i mean, I'd really like to cut the spring down a notch or two in the one i have now, but im scared i'll ruin it. I do need to find some sort of mold for the trigger though.

Second gun has to be cheap too. One thing i do find annoying about the top feed is when i get in close im looking from the side. Ive seen some side loaders thatll correct that issue, but i know nothing about them. You seem to know a lot. Do you know if they require high psi levels? even if i just use the gravity the majority of the time? I do like how i can get by on low psi with the top load though.

the side feed gravity/siphon combo i was looking at is this no name.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Multi-Pu...719702?hash=item28350cbf56:g:yekAAOSwY3BZIr28

i buy on ebay, just so i get that ebay and paypal protection. ill send the brush back 20 times for a straight nozzle/needle if need be or get my money back and try again. I could get it cheaper if i order direct from china without all the extras, but i dont want to wait 20-60 days. Plus, if something is wrong, i prefer to send it back locally. So ebay is a must.

If its not going to be that one, Ill probably just get another cheap local ebay top loader

I am traveling right now, and have not had a chance to look at this... Side feeds in general do not really need more air pressure to work than a gravity feed, in my experience. I have had some luck with some of the imports and side feed, but do not have access to my notes at the moment... I should be returning home next week, and be back to revisit this topic.
 
Your situation reminds me mine when I first was buying AB stuff. Though I had good italian 24l tank compressor then.
Tankless compressor is definitely no good, you're right not buying it.
With all my heart, don't buy a lot of cheap airbrushes. Dozens of them will not give you a result of one Iwata, starting with Eclipse and more expensive series. Spare some money for Eclipse and you'll be surprised how good the AB is. Sometimes there are good lots on e-bay.
I understand that money is short for now. I hope your situation will change for better one as soon as possible.
In my situation no wife no family life. If it would be another situation I think it would be like yours. And I wouldn't experiment with ABs as I do now. But who knows...

i wont be buying a lot of airbrushes in general, definitely not another one this year as long as they dont both break that is. ill have two with gravity, one top and one side feed plus the siphon action with 4 different needles size to let me try and learn with for the next yr... or as long as the ABs last. If i stick this out, when i revisit buying another AB in the future. , ill atleast know what type i like and use most.. top/side gravity/siphon..
 
Long thread. Ok its been awhile sins I've been around.. Heres my take for this hour of the morning. :)

That Brush may be a lost cause. Tho not Hugely familiar.. Mostly because I dont like them.
But it looks a little Badger-ish with a little Iwata thrown in.
The part/s you would have been looking for are known as Nozzle assembly or Nozzle. Its actually TWO separate parts and wording.
By that I mean. On one brush. lets say the Iwata HP-CH the Nozzle is One part and screws into the body.
The General all-rounder Iwata CS (3.5 needle) has a two part nozzle and brass sleeve (if it could be called that?) just as that shown on yours. The Nozzle will screw onto that sleeve and becomes the floating assembly as you mention.
Will the Iwata or badger parts fit? I dont know. They may likely be correct in size. But you have to watch the Threads.. Some brush's will use a fine thread. Olympus being one.

But mostly that nozzle set up you have looks one piece. So its not like the Iwata will work.

Paint.. One area I have played with over the years... NOTE: I haven't read every post here! So not meaning to over step anything already mentioned.
True you can use Damn near any thing thro your Airbrush if thinned. What you will eventually find. (On this you can Trust me... :) )
Is. Colour wont be as Opaque as it should be. Thinning will make it transparent, Or worse. Only Dominant colours will stay Opaque.
The gradation performance will be poor most times then not. And corrections will take much much longer.
Then colour mixing may throw you off. And lastly.. The clinger here. It can be HELL cleaning the excrement out of your brush ater many paint sessions. Dont assume Any Agent will break it down for you! One Acrylic paint (recommended it could be used for Airbrushing) I used, was brilliant in all area's. Even the white. But my cleaning fluids just turned it to gum rubber-ish glue... Took for bloody ever to clean it out.

If you wont cheep practice paint. I would hint to using Ink. You wont get a lot of colour availible to you. But you wont need them any way, IMO. And forget colour overlapping.
But with imagination. You could learn some very impressive Mono chromatic painting.

OK thats my intended, two three line quick post.. :D

Dan
 
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