General and trigger comfort?

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BobRoss

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I find it hard to get comfortable body wise and finger to trigger.

i may try to add some sort of mold or something to the trigger.. so im not constantly relying on using the very tip of my finger on various parts of the trigger.. im constantly finding a different part depending on the angle and pressure im trying to create. is this bad? sometimes i can feel my finger starting to slip

I tried using parts of my finger further back from the tip but that felt even more uncomfortable..

Also, i cant find a comfort level body wise whether im standing, kneeling, squatting or sitting.. is this part just more about dealing with it until you no longer notice.

The only time i really feel comfort is when the AB is in front my chest/heart centered and im standing.. but as soon as i start to move my arms.. its gone.. i tried just turning from my waist but i have less control like that..

idk.. maybe just grind away until i dont notice and just deal with it?!?

any tips/advice..
 
Here are the videos mentioned:)



The only time i really feel comfort is when the AB is in front my chest/heart centered and im standing..

any tips/advice..

I also paint standing at the easel so probably my way of holding an AB would fit you also. I hold similar to the way Blair shows in his video, but a bit differently as when painting sitting and painting standing requires different angle for an AB.

But I do not like short trigger even that stock one is too short for me. I make trigger pads for the triggers, all my airbrush triggers are padded. For me pad gives more control and it also reduces finger fatigue besides installing soft springs.
BTW all my Iwatas have soft springs from Foxy. It's worth to have them!
http://www.foxystudio.com/product/zsolts-soft-spring-for-iwata/
 
Thanks guy. Ive seen that video of dru and tried that but it doesnt feel right for me. I tend to find using Andreza back tip a lil more comfortable but i feel my fingers slip at times. Maybe softer springs like you sad Vlad, but im not sure if those would fit my knock off AB. Maybe the bigger issue is the height of the trigger. That would probably help some. I think i saw a guy glue a mold on his trigger out of just hot craft glue. i may try that.

Yeah andreza, i may be holding it too tight. like i said i dont feel comfort.. idk how to explain it.. i know im a beginner and i have to go through plenty of steps.. i just dont feel intune with the stroke.. like im not naturally flowing with it. i dont know if that even makes sense.. i definitely dont feel loose now that i think about it. too much thinking as a rookie i guess and not enough of just doing.

thanks again.
 
but im not sure if those would fit my knock off AB.

As I remember, knock-offs springs you have are exactly Iwata's size. At least mine, that I've left for me, have that size and I even replaced the spring for soft one and it feels better now:)

Try whatever may come to your head and you'll find your convenient way for painting with the AB.
BTW @AndreZA sticks smth to his triggers for better grip, it's just for the way you like to hold your brush;)
 
That is correct. It's it just because the triggers tapers off at the back. I'm just flattening it out a bit.

yeah what is that back there? keep you from slipping off?

I went through some of your pages on your blog.. you are really good.. i wish to be half that good one day.
 
yeah what is that back there? keep you from slipping off?

I went through some of your pages on your blog.. you are really good.. i wish to be half that good one day.

Thanks. I started using Sugru but I do not have any more so now I use an flexible epoxy glue.
 
You might want to look into the grex premade and the custom made grips. It made a world of a difference for my hand comfort. Like previously stated try not to hold your brush to tight.
 
You might want to look into the grex premade and the custom made grips. It made a world of a difference for my hand comfort. Like previously stated try not to hold your brush to tight.

I have this no-name brand one. It basically fits any airbrush. It is only comfortable if you hold the gun horizontal. I paint with the gun pointing down so it does not work for me.

ergo_grip_01.jpg ergo_grip_02.jpg ergo_grip_00.jpg
 
It is only comfortable if you hold the gun horizontal. I paint with the gun pointing down so it does not work for me.

That's just the way I paint. I think I should try this odd thing.
It's being sold locally for many years but I didn't think to try it. I even kept it in my hands but hadn't decided to buy one.
 
The grex trigger looks more comfortable than the one pictured especially since with the grex you still hold the AB the same way as normal so painting anyway is doable.
I have the grex made one but might look into the custom molded one that you do yourself.
 
The grex trigger looks more comfortable than the one pictured especially since with the grex you still hold the AB the same way as normal so painting anyway is doable.
I have the grex made one but might look into the custom molded one that you do yourself.
Grex makes two types of grips. One similar to the one I showed and another rubber that is much tighter around the body.
 
Make that three.. I didn't know they the made one similar to yours. So they have one like in the picture than the tight bodied one which is what cones on grex AB then the one that you mold yourself around your hand and holding/gripping style.
 
Thanks. I started using Sugru but I do not have any more so now I use an flexible epoxy glue.

i tried something similar and it feels way better now. they call it blu tack in australia. i have a cheap brand and it doesnt stick as well as the name brand stuff, so ill buy the real stuff soon. and if that doesnt stick well enough, ill just get some gum, chew it and stick it to the back...

thanks again..
 
Don't forget you are training muscles. They will feel fatigue and discomfort just the same as any muscles being used in new ways. And not just the muscles holding the airbrush, but in the whole arm. Being relaxed and not holding too tight will help.

When learning you are over thinking every move to get the technique right, and it makes for unnatural movement. This is the point of exercises - to build the muscle memory needed so that it becomes automatic and instinctive.

Some people who have similar problems trigger with thumb instead of finger, or as you say build up the trigger, usually those with particularly large hands. IMO I think you just need to let your muscles develop, they will get used to it. Using adaptions is fine though, you will just have to use them for any airbrush you use in future as that's what you will be used to. As it is minimal cost, its not a big deal.
 
have a few stiff drinks turn the music up and relax, have fun just throwing paint in some sort of organised chaos.

my control got better once I moved off dots and daggers and started on the eye, it then all made sense as to how it all comes together. I did return to the dots etc but by doing both it helped reinforce the movement and when I needed to do what movement. kids colouring books help with putting the shading/blending exercises into practice by trying to make 2D look more 3D
 
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