Rick Martin
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Yep thats about what im doing, making a big mess but oh its so much fun*Whistles* Take it off... take it all off!
I'm happy where I'm at... I make big messes on paper
Controlling the Airbrush
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Rick Martin
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Oh and i have boxed the evolution back up for the time being.
That's what I like to hear, must-have lots fun trying different stuff, in about a month you'll end up smiling when you notice some of that messing about is starting to fall into place and get the idea you actually know what you're doing
A little tip: often when you want to scratch a build up of paint is required so that you have something to actually scratch, if you have misted over with a light layer your' hard and soft erasers are better at this stage, also your Euro tool, one of our members @beanpoleuk is a fibre glass pen Jedi, he sands his fibreglass refill flat on it's end and uses the outer edge for finer lines this would cure the problem of your' lines being too wide, I am sure he has a little SBS on this somewhere, with him being a real cool dude I'm sure he will guide you to that fairly quick
Rick Martin
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I get what your saying but i have to try to paint something. Getting bored with dots and daggers.I suspect like a lot of us here you are trying to run marathons when you 've only just learnt to walk. . This really isn't hard, but like anything, one step at a time.
We're here watching you wobble, we're also here to catch you before you try crushing your airbrushes in a press
If you want to paint something, paint something, you are not restricted to dots and daggers, being able to do them is essential but you can do 15 minutes if them just warm up and the feel for your brush at the start if each session of "painting something" your' tools, your rules, like we keep saying it's all about having fun, if those dots and daggers are no fun, to hell with them, try writing your name or your kids names if you have any, all the shapes you would be practising are also in the alphabet, you could actually take all the shapes in your own name and using them several times create a picture, it's a general rule that when you paint an eye, you are not painting an eye, you are arranging a series of shapes such that when you're done what you have looks like an eye, realism is just more careful placement of those shapes combined with effects.
Damn it, I need to go lie down now, I got all philosophical and that ain't good for me
Jurien72
Have Airbrush - Will Travel!
Why? For the love of God, why??? Oh the humanity!!! *sobs*
beanpoleuk
Air-Valve Autobot!
Just to back up what @Malky said about the fibre pen, I did do a little tutorial 'using the fibre pen for hair/fur', here is the link
http://www.airbrushforum.org/threads/using-a-fibre-pen-for-scratching-hair-fur.15729/
I would advise not to rely too heavily on scratching and erasing , try to 'supplement' airbrush work with erasing and or scratching otherwise you will be limited to substrates and could end up going down the route of scratching/erasing everything and very little or no actual airbrush work, (Just my opinion btw).
Be patient and keep at it, the control and understanding of paint/reductions etc will eventually come, there is plenty of help here on the forum so don't lose heart, have a look in my gallery everything you see has been a result of learning from the great artists on this forum.
Yep, dots and dagger are boring
http://www.airbrushforum.org/threads/using-a-fibre-pen-for-scratching-hair-fur.15729/
I would advise not to rely too heavily on scratching and erasing , try to 'supplement' airbrush work with erasing and or scratching otherwise you will be limited to substrates and could end up going down the route of scratching/erasing everything and very little or no actual airbrush work, (Just my opinion btw).
Be patient and keep at it, the control and understanding of paint/reductions etc will eventually come, there is plenty of help here on the forum so don't lose heart, have a look in my gallery everything you see has been a result of learning from the great artists on this forum.
Yep, dots and dagger are boring
Rick Martin
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Lol. Dont worry it will be back in time. I give it 6 months.
I wont it was just a exercise to see if i could do it. I know now im not ready for that. Not sure im ready for PP14 but im in and im staying in.Just to back up what @Malky said about the fibre pen, I did do a little tutorial 'using the fibre pen for hair/fur', here is the link
http://www.airbrushforum.org/threads/using-a-fibre-pen-for-scratching-hair-fur.15729/
I would advise not to rely too heavily on scratching and erasing , try to 'supplement' airbrush work with erasing and or scratching otherwise you will be limited to substrates and could end up going down the route of scratching/erasing everything and very little or no actual airbrush work, (Just my opinion btw).
Be patient and keep at it, the control and understanding of paint/reductions etc will eventually come, there is plenty of help here on the forum so don't lose heart, have a look in my gallery everything you see has been a result of learning from the great artists on this forum.
Yep, dots and dagger are boring
You are ready for PP14, you simply pick a nice uncomplicated image that you like and mess around with it remembering to have fun while you do it, then in about 2.5 months you give it your best shot and send it, that's all anyone expects, everyone who has ever done a paint pal has surprised themselves by doing something they didn't think they could andxi know I speak for many when I say I've been pleasantly surprised as well.
You know a lot more today than you did 5 days ago, or am I wrong?
Squishy
Queen Clown Slayer
Malky is right, all anyone expects is that once you've signed up, you actually send something. The fact that you've taken the time and trouble is enough. And I bet you will amaze yourself then, when you look back to now and see how far you've come. I guarantee you will be a faster learner than me, and even I could slowly see enough small improvements to realise I was going in the right direction. Seriously, it took me months to learn what others picked up in a week. Date what you are doing now, so you can look back and compare. It is easy to think you aren't moving forward, but when you look back you realise how well you are actually doing. Just don't fall into the same trap as I did and compare myself with others, it can be demoralising. Just compare with yourself. If you're moving forward - you're doing well. PP 14 is ready for you, all you have to do is believe you are ready for PP - and you are, just by participating you are spreading the love. And that is what PP is all about!
And def paint some proper images, it's the best way to put the dots,daggers, blends etc into practise, but don't neglect them. The better you are at the exercises the better your finished pieces will be. I learnt the hard way. I was so clueless I didn't even know dots, daggers etc were a thing, and I did run before I could walk. In fact, I stumbled about like a drunk man at a free bar for a long time, and fell over many, many times.
You're doing it right, so just keep doing it and you will get where you want to go.
And def paint some proper images, it's the best way to put the dots,daggers, blends etc into practise, but don't neglect them. The better you are at the exercises the better your finished pieces will be. I learnt the hard way. I was so clueless I didn't even know dots, daggers etc were a thing, and I did run before I could walk. In fact, I stumbled about like a drunk man at a free bar for a long time
, and fell over many, many times. You're doing it right, so just keep doing it and you will get where you want to go.
Rick Martin
Detail Decepticon!
Thank you everyone. Now what i need to do is find a low profile trigger airbrush
So which brush are you using now ?
I find my infinity doesn't enjoy my createx with the reductions I normally use through my Iwata, but with the com-art it should be fine and mine like the ETAC efx too. You just need to find the sweet spot for the brush and paint that you are using
I wasn't intending to say that you should be only doing dots and daggers, no way. YAWN !! by all means find something to paint but as pointed out above, ease into the erasing, once you get the hang of it its amazing.
one of the first paintings I did was 'Clint' in one of the challenges that Mr.Micron posted. it was on an el cheapo art pad (A3) and just used wicked detail black and white, bad blade scratching in his hair, and......before I knew about blue shift and erasers. I think he turned out alright for my skill level at that point in time. it took me about 2 weeks of evenings from memory
I find my infinity doesn't enjoy my createx with the reductions I normally use through my Iwata, but with the com-art it should be fine and mine like the ETAC efx too. You just need to find the sweet spot for the brush and paint that you are using
I wasn't intending to say that you should be only doing dots and daggers, no way. YAWN !! by all means find something to paint but as pointed out above, ease into the erasing, once you get the hang of it its amazing.
one of the first paintings I did was 'Clint' in one of the challenges that Mr.Micron posted. it was on an el cheapo art pad (A3) and just used wicked detail black and white, bad blade scratching in his hair, and......before I knew about blue shift and erasers. I think he turned out alright for my skill level at that point in time. it took me about 2 weeks of evenings from memory
Rick Martin
Detail Decepticon!
It will take me 4 days to decide what to do. Good news is im off work for the day, have me a 24 ounce beer, gesso'ing some mdf, then practice.
Rick Martin
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That turned out great. Oh i can only dream. Im using my Neo for Iwata seeing i boxed my other cheap chinese brushes away.
Don't dream, just do.
It was a beginner challenge, despite the way it initially looks there's not a lot of fiddly stuff on there to do. cut a 6" square hole in a piece of printer paper and move it around the image, you'll see there isn't a great deal of detail in there, it just looks like it does when you look at the whole picture. That's why @Mr.Micron picked the picture. It was do-able for beginners.
Don't look for a whole picture, pick a part of it. It sounds like your almost talking yourself out of doing a picture like this because you think you cant do it, but I've got news for you, you can !!
Rick Martin
Detail Decepticon!
Im not doubting myself. Just a little impatient. My main problem is im a little guy with small hands ( i know i will get some comments here..). All my brushes have high triggers and it makes it uncomfortable after awhile. But i am a doer and when i start something, im hell bent to geter done.
). All my brushes have high triggers and it makes it uncomfortable after awhile. But i am a doer and when i start something, im hell bent to geter done.
MarcosD
Detail Decepticon!
Im not doubting myself. Just a little impatient. My main problem is im a little guy with small hands ( i know i will get some comments here..
I'm small handed too, when I use the evo I use only the tip of my finger and when I use my iwatas I use the Dru's methods instead , different brushes different handling!! Like paint different brands different reduction ratio!
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there are a few members here that have children and they use the airbrushes without problem. Its just a matter of finding the right spot for your hands/fingers. I cant use a brush without the moisture trap on the end of the hose, otherwise I get cramp in my hand, my siphon I have padded the stem as its front heavy and it stops the brush slipping.
As Marcos has stated, its just a matter of adjusting for each brush, its a pain I know but its all just part of the process.
As Marcos has stated, its just a matter of adjusting for each brush, its a pain I know but its all just part of the process.
Rick Martin
Detail Decepticon!
Yeah im finding it right now. Its finally working for me. Practicing short dagger strokes and they are coming out pretty nice. I think ive found a base this airbrush wants
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