Iwata Eclipse 0.2mm??

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Arent Jack

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Hi,

I just bought an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and am wondering if anyone knows if I can replace the small nozzle tip with a 0.2mm and use a 0.2mm needle in it??
 
In any case, I'll relate this. I used the .33 cap with the .21 needle and nozzle on my krome. It "worked" but was really pretty pointless. Did better with the straight .33 setup.
I'd guess youll at least have a very tough time getting it to really atomize with the .35 cap
 
Without the aircap for the .2 it will be a waste of time being it would not allow enough suction to pull the paint.
Plus the threads are different on the .23 micron nozzle vs the self centering CS nozzle.
The main question is why would you want to ?
You can build a poor mans micron easy enough .
 
Mr.Micron said:
Without the aircap for the .2 it will be a waste of time being it would not allow enough suction to pull the paint.
Plus the threads are different on the .23 micron nozzle vs the self centering CS nozzle.
The main question is why would you want to ?
You can build a poor mans micron easy enough .
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So are the threads like the old hp nozzles or the new plus nozzles?
Guess you could fill,drill,reem a nozzle cap for it if you reeeeally wanted to
 
Robbyrockett2 said:
So are the threads like the old hp nozzles or the new plus nozzles?
Guess you could fill,drill,reem a nozzle cap for it if you reeeeally wanted to
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The old style that they never changed .
But if you want to build a poor man micron
The original "Poor Man's Micron" is as follows. Replace the .3mm C tip from the HP-C, with a .2mm tip from the HP-B. Keep the needle the same,

I also recommend replacing the standard separate trigger, and plunger system with a trigger from a HP-BC. It is not only a single piece, that feels smoother, and wears longer, but is taller, which is important for detail control. Especially since you have lost a bit of needle throw with the tip exchange. This taller trigger is where the idea for the taller trigger in the new Kustom Line came from. That is about all you have to do to create your poor man's Micron.
 
Mr.Micron said:
Without the aircap for the .2 it will be a waste of time being it would not allow enough suction to pull the paint.
Plus the threads are different on the .23 micron nozzle vs the self centering CS nozzle.
The main question is why would you want to ?
You can build a poor mans micron easy enough .
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I have 2 microns, but was just wondering if it was possible!
 
anything you put your mind to may be possible , But what would you gain from doing it ?
But yes I know a couple of folks some years ago who did try to make a .2 Eclipse cs and none of them succeeded .
 
Mr.Micron said:
The old style that they never changed .
But if you want to build a poor man micron
The original "Poor Man's Micron" is as follows. Replace the .3mm C tip from the HP-C, with a .2mm tip from the HP-B. Keep the needle the same,

I also recommend replacing the standard separate trigger, and plunger system with a trigger from a HP-BC. It is not only a single piece, that feels smoother, and wears longer, but is taller, which is important for detail control. Especially since you have lost a bit of needle throw with the tip exchange. This taller trigger is where the idea for the taller trigger in the new Kustom Line came from. That is about all you have to do to create your poor man's Micron.
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HMMM, I think my ps-270 maybe already basically is one. Seems it's got a B+ tip but it uses the same needle as the .3 (ps289) version. The trigger is one piece as well. I don't know if it's tall though. Gives me an idea though about trying the BC trigger :)
 
Mr.Micron said:
anything you put your mind to may be possible , But what would you gain from doing it ?
But yes I know a couple of folks some years ago who did try to make a .2 Eclipse cs and none of them succeeded .
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Spray thinner lines?! Hmm now I don’t know why I bought it with 0.35:(
 
Arent Jack said:
Spray thinner lines?! Hmm now I don’t know why I bought it with 0.35:(
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learn to use it ;) - there are some people that do incredible work with an Eclipse in .35.es classes featuring the brushes so that people can see what they are really capable of.

do an image search for "Steve Gibson Airbrush" , he regularly uses an eclipse for his work. Even teaches classes featuring the brushes so that people can see what they are really capable of.
 
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