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I've already edited one post lets keep personal opinions aside and look at problem solving.
we tend to forget we have a lot of members of all different nationalities and language skills and we all know how hard it is to describe a process and have it make sense when if you were in front of the person you could show them what you mean in a few minutes.

lets all just take a chill pill and consider ways to make the super reduced red look a little less pink when sprayed with minimal layers.

Yes i'm chatting with Sam via PM, and i now have a cleared idea of what she wants her end result to be..... because i have pretty much the entire Createx line at home and will have an extended weekend i'm going to look at how Sam is currently working and how we can work with that to get the result she's after.

Just remember, public arguing is not tolerated.

I totally agree with you...and I know that that public arguing is not tolerated.
I was trying to help.....And if it is any consolation, Createx is all I use.
Good luck with the testing.
I am out on this one....

oh...and my new signature is going to be....wait for it.....
What happens in the Orange...Stays in the Orange.....lollollol
 
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I totally agree with you...and I know that that public arguing is not tolerated.
I was trying to help.....And if it is any consolation, Createx is all I use.
Good luck with the testing.
I am out on this one....

oh...and my new signature is going to be....wait for it.....
What happens in the Orange...Stays in the Orange.....lollollol

:thumbsup: with all the different personalities here i'm surprised we dont get more head butting. Not everyone is going to get on , that is life.

I honestly dont think this is going to be a hard one to resolve, but like i said, i'll be doing some experimentation over the weekend...... 1 1/2hrs until I hit the road home....... Chill time tonight, Paint slinging for the next few day - - - paint me happy :D
 
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Everyone is entitled to share how they would approach a problem.

Posts that do not pertain to the problem will be removed. Warnings will be issued as deemed fit.
 
:thumbsup: with all the different personalities here i'm surprised we dont get more head butting. Not everyone is going to get on , that is life.

I honestly dont think this is going to be a hard one to resolve, but like i said, i'll be doing some experimentation over the weekend...... 1 1/2hrs until I hit the road home....... Chill time tonight, Paint slinging for the next few day - - - paint me happy :D

I have a feeling it's going to be harder to resolve than you might think, I've been following this thread from the start and the odd smile has been provoked by it, unfortunately the poster doesn't wish to change their approach and without doing that the problem can't be resolved, everyone of us will change how we do things to suit whatever it is we are doing at the time, there are no reds at all that will reach full opacity in a single pass without lathering it on, and this applies to a few other colours to, in my job as painter and decorator which I've done for over forty years when we used red, yellow, orange and some greens and blues, after applying the appropriate undercoat/base colour we still had to apply at least two coats of the finish to get the desired solid colour, reds and yellows often needed more, either way the approach was different to using white, black or very light pastel shades, so if a change of approach is out the question, so is the solution, if a red looks too pink, too orange, too yellow or too anything else, it's the wrong one, simple as that, but as has been mentioned, everything around it on the same piece will affect how it is perceived and throw off judgement.

@twood you gave excellent advice Tony, perhaps you'll understand why I refuse to use Farcebook and indeed any other so called "social media" arenas.
 
I would assume if you use ''more'' transparent colors and more transparent base in your colors you will need more time and more spraying to get to the desired red color which you would like... In this example more passes to get rid of that pink effect. But what if you start with brown one very light coat and then with red on top of it?
According to the google: Also if you have brown and light red, you will receive the color burgundy.
 
Yeah blah im stubborn but jacke voiced my question perfectly and there has been great advice on how to achieve it.

The question. How to get a super thinned out red not to look pink but closer to a blood color.

All of you insisting on spraying more pigment are not getting the question that was intended. Twood insists I throw my transbase in the garbage as I quote him "I have never used transparent base" and also "they are created with that much pigment for a reason" but yep beat up on Sammi day so let' have it.
 
Yeah blah im stubborn but jacke voiced my question perfectly and there has been great advice on how to achieve it.

The question. How to get a super thinned out red not to look pink but closer to a blood color.

All of you insisting on spraying more pigment are not getting the question that was intended. Twood insists I throw my transbase in the garbage as I quote him "I have never used transparent base" and also "they are created with that much pigment for a reason" but yep beat up on Sammi day so let' have it.


My point is (and I have both my hands in my pockets in case I accidentally beat you), red won't cover in one pass without thinning so "super thinned" definitely won't cut it, the pink look is because of the white it's going onto and as you've already been told it will get redder when you apply more coats.

No one told you straight to throw you're trans base in the trash, but you can't make a colour less transparent by adding trans base, not only does it make it more transparent but you're mix would also no longer be "super thinned", therefore, totally opposite what you're looking for.

You are under no obligation to take any advice given to you, so if you don't like the advice you get, simply ignore it, bear in mind that all advice is relevant even if it doesn't help you, the same advice will certainly help others, that's why we have discussions rather than just PM each other with tips, so that everyone can learn without having to pose the same question, many will read these threads and percentage will derive help where some may not, simply put, there are choices.
 
Thats a shame I was going to say try magenta and yellow to make the red. Maybe it will help someone else in the future.


lee
Bit late to the party Lee [emoji3]. But I’ll remember if I ever need the mix.


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I been working as much as I can so i'm tired ( hard work gallivanting round wales on bikes in this heat ) hence I haven't been on much :)

Got to print some shirts for my mates son for tomorrow. will do it in the morning, I fancy a kebab. that was random but i typed it anyway.

Lee
 
I will likely still have a play around and see what comes of it. I’d had 4 pages of PMs and
I have a pretty good idea of what sam was trying to do. Shame she wasn’t willing to tweak her recipe even a little to get the result she needed. I was going to try some bloodied fingerprints, the thing I noticed is that the finger prints on the page that I found as a starting point at actually brown - dried blood is actually brown !!
 
I will likely still have a play around and see what comes of it. I’d had 4 pages of PMs and
I have a pretty good idea of what sam was trying to do. Shame she wasn’t willing to tweak her recipe even a little to get the result she needed. I was going to try some bloodied fingerprints, the thing I noticed is that the finger prints on the page that I found as a starting point at actually brown - dried blood is actually brown !!
it is not the same color. It depends of many factors. Here is just one example.
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edit: just found out blood which stands for long time it oxidize :)
 
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This is a great example of painting what you see rather than what you think it should be!
 
one more thing. that 80%metawhatever it is , does it look brown or is it just me? lol
I suppose we shouldn’t really be surprised, blood has a high iron component - which oxidized in air and goes brown.... it’s the iron in the blood that causes the brown !!!!
 
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