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Brand new Badger 105 will not spray water

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting!' started by TheTawnyOwl, Mar 17, 2017.


  1. MeeshellMP

    MeeshellMP Goddess Queen of carts Mod

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    That was answer again from repairs at Badger
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    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

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    But you don't tighten it to the point where you can't tighten any further do you ?
  3. Basstrack238

    Basstrack238 Needle-chuck Ninja

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    I use small pliers also, with a light touch. We have to remember we are working with brass and very fine thread. Can't just crank the crap outta it, but it must seat to 'seal. Maybe you got junk from scamazon. Did it have all paperwork? Something is amiss....
  4. TheTawnyOwl

    TheTawnyOwl Young Tutorling

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    Alrighty, i completely disassembled the unit (barring the small parts at it's connection to the hose). I'm not seeing any o-rings on the head assembly.

    I followed the cleaning video and cleaned as instructed. Reassembled the unit, and reconnected the hose to my compressor and airbrush.

    No change.

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  5. TheTawnyOwl

    TheTawnyOwl Young Tutorling

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    I'm a bit worried you might be correct on this. It all appears to be legit. It came with a basic instruction manual.
  6. Basstrack238

    Basstrack238 Needle-chuck Ninja

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    Every badger I've got has always worked right off the bat. When you get it back together, leave tip and nozzle off. Slide needle back into and set the tip on it and check the taper fit at base of tip and body of brush. They should mate nicely to seal. Then put air nozzle on making sure everything is still lined up. Then check your needle still spins and centered, tighten chuck. Then put air cap on. What pressure you running, crank it up to 60 and check it again.
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    Basstrack238 Needle-chuck Ninja

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    Make sure the head is good and tight to get that nozzle seated.
  8. TheTawnyOwl

    TheTawnyOwl Young Tutorling

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    Okay, so I was a little bit confused by your instructions, but I read them a few times and believe that I followed them correctly.

    I was trying 25psi, but cranked this up to 50psi (the maximum pressure that my compressor allows).

    No change unfortunately.

    I don't know if this helps at all, but something that I noticed during this process, is that if I place a finger over the hole on the paint cup lid creating a seal, small amounts of water spray out in weak bursts?
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    Basstrack238 Needle-chuck Ninja

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    I dunno, without being there it's tough. I wish I could help more. You're sure about the assembly?? A new unit should not be giving you these fits.
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    Basstrack238 Needle-chuck Ninja

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    Can you get a close up of front of unit assembled, like you're gonna spray the camera. Nice and close.
  11. markjthomson

    markjthomson AKA Quick Draw !! (and still very happy) Staff Member Mod

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    OK now this is an eliminate the obvious question... is your needle chucking nut (the thing behind the trigger) that holds the needle in place tight enough? Are you getting the needle moving back enough...?
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    basepaint Air-Valve Autobot!

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    Here's what I would try... Loosen the needle chuck and pull the needle out and with water in the cup see if you get anything to spray out the nozzle? If you do You need to check the needle To see if its the right one for that nozzle and as Mark said check the needle chucking nut
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    Basstrack238 Needle-chuck Ninja

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    that's what I thought too or mismatched head and tip nozzle set...not letting enough air to create vacuum.
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    TheTawnyOwl Young Tutorling

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    Okay, so I have attached the picture that you requested. I guess I'm as sure as someone with my experience can be?

    The needle chuck is as tight as i can make it and the needle retracts fully into the unit.

    Removing the needle with water in the cup had no effect unfortunately.

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    It's getting down to that level of issue if everything else checks out.
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    You need to make sure the rest of the assembly is on to try without the needle.
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    TheTawnyOwl Young Tutorling

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    I left everything but the needle as it was.
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    TheTawnyOwl Young Tutorling

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    Might have to see if I can take the airbrush to my local hobby shop and see if they'll lend an experienced eye, before seeing if Amazon will replace my unit?
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    basepaint Air-Valve Autobot!

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    Have you ever put any paint thru it?
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    I'm not familiar with these brushes, but I remember reading somewhere that to get vacuum, the end of the nozzle has to protrude slightly. Not sure if this applies to this particular brush??? Thought I'd mention it though.

    The only other possibility I can think of is a badly blocked nozzle. I know its new, but they sometimes get tested in the factory. Was there a piece of paper with a test spray in the packaging? Even though the needle is passing through I can still be blocked. Does it feel spongy or sticky if you gently move the needle in and out by hand with the chuck undone? That's one sign of a blockage.

    Are there bubbles in the cup when you try and spray?

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