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Discussion in 'Beginners Airbrush Questions!' started by Robbyrockett2, Jan 24, 2018.


  1. Airbrush Dreams

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    I have been doing beanpoleuk’s recipe and that’s all I have been using lately. Just make sure you use the super fine powder Kaolin Clay and hobby PVA Glue. And Elmer’s Craft PVA was a horrible experience.


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    Cannot buy any of the pencil erasers around here, everything we need we need to import at ridiculous prices, maybe I should relocate.... You guys have everything you need that side... mmmm food for thought!
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    @AndreZA Likely has some good sources If you ask him
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    The hard white you can get from Herbert Evans and the soft pink from Art Savings Club. Or you can get them on Loot at very good prices. http://www.loot.co.za/search?cat=b&terms=perfection eraser
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    Illustration board do you give it a coat of gesso or is it not necessary

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    You can give it a coat of Gesso if you want but when you do it's no longer illustration board, it's gesso board:)

    If you want coat something with Gesso which is fine to do, there are cheaper boards to do unit on, most boards are usually chosen for their specific properties but the boards properties no longer exist when they are coated with Gesso, varnish or anything else.

    Gesso is a great medium to work on for airbrushing as long as you sand it flat, I normally work on gessoed MDF, but ill be switching to making my own clayboard soon.
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    Yes ive ordered ingredients to make clayboard as finding a good economical substrate is becoming quite hard to find in larger sizes
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    There is literally nothing involved airbrushing that could be described as economical:)
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    Yep but making my own mdf clayboad will help £20 for 12'x8'
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    That's the way to do it:thumbsup:
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    I've not used claybord yet, ordered some aquabord by mistake a while back, it works ok but doesnt erase very well as its got that slight ripple to it like watercolour paper. Making claybord seems a lot more economical but i have shed loads of bristol board, Scholleshammer g4 board and synthetic paper to use first.

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    I make clay board with mdf.
    The only problem with mdf is that the fibers swell when they get wet.
    To prevent this, you can first treat them with a few layers of synthetic paint.
    Or what I do buy mdf with a white layer that is used for the back of cabinets.
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    That's what I did too, I bought a whole sheet from the Praxis and let them cut for me for free, they cut it to both Schoelershammer No.4 paper sizes, that white finish is water proof though and needs a good sanding before applying the clay mix, although in my case it was gesso.

    If you need to use plain MDF, you can seal/prime it with Sudwest allgrund water based primer which you can at all "Verf groothandelen" in the Netherlands, this a multi primer which can be used on anyrhing including most plastics, I used it in my job as painter while working in Holland for plastic rainwater pipes and such, check it out here, although water based it is completely water proof when dry, it is also self levelling so requires minimal sanding before subsequent finishes.

    There are UK manufacturer equivalents of the same thing available, just ask about it at any Crown, Dulux or Leyland paints trade centre, it's handy stuff to have around if you work on several mediums, since it is effectively an adhesion promoter.
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    [QUOTE="Malky, post: 319824, [/QUOTE]
    HaHa. you do not have to tell me that. :)
    I am a professional house painter for more than 25 years.
    There are 2 primers that are always in my car.
    Caparol uniprimer. Südwest All-Grund. You do not need anything else.:thumbsup:
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    HaHa. you do not have to tell me that. :)
    I am a professional house painter for more than 25 years.
    There are 2 primers that are always in my car.
    Caparol uniprimer. Südwest All-Grund. You do not need anything else.:thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

    LOL, yes that was my job too while I was in Holland, same as you I had a box with the "essentials" in it including these two, along with those I had dampness treatment paints and sprays and the usual wood care products, I've been a painter and decorator for 44 years now:) although due to health problems I no longer work except in my own house when I'm fit enough.

    But still handy information for others who happen on this thread:thumbsup:
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    the Primer is sat in my amazon basket along with stone paper (waterproof) it's a lime and resin paper

    MDF do you break the edges (sand a small chamfer) and spray both sides
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    I don't chamfer anything but no harm in sanding it a bit, if you found the stuff that's white on one side you only need to sand and prime the front, if it's bare you need to prime both sides once each to counteract warping.
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