Dear fellow paint sprayers and artists

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Jasper77

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Here my introduction.
Being inspired by the videos of the airbrush tutor, I purchased my first chinese knockoff at new years; inspite of the sound advice as delivered by the airbrush tutor. Since then I have been busy with the exercises and a few eyes. (honestly, with mixed results) Time for the leopard I thought.
The first layer was reasonable, but then disaster with the white layer. Lacking both airbrush skills and a decent airbrush, back to practicing fine lines. After 2 sheets of frustration I decided to look for a decent airbrush. I can't make up my mind yet between the Eclipse and the HPC+.

My goal is to create realistic chinese sceneris, sepia portraits, and some nice artwork on canoes and canoe paddles.

Conclusion: newest newbie, wanting to give airbrushing a serious go as a hobby.

For the last few days I have been reading several threads of the forum and boy what an inspiration!
Very impressed with the art you all produce. The level of skill seems light years away for me, but I certainly can appreciate and enjoy the skills of others.
I hope that in the distant future, after an enormous amount of practice, I can post an acceptable artwork.

In the meantime, I look forward to reading new step by steps and pictures of the great new artworks.

Best regards from the Netherlands,

Jasper
 
Welcome Jasper form you guessed it the Netherlands , you cant go wrong with a Iwata no matter witch one end up it will not disappoint you
 
Both are great brushes. However I always advise people to get the hp-cs eclipse. It is a really awesome brush, an all rounder, great to learn on, but not a brush you will grow out of. I also have a micron, and use it as well as, not instead of my hp-cs.

The main difference in the brushes is that the hpc+ has the .3 nozzle which is the screw in type, and a preset handle. This is only my opinion, but the eclipse .35 nozzle will be able to produce the same fine line, (with practice :)) but because it is the drop in (compression fit) type, ut is easier to handle, and there is no fear of damaging or snapping of threads. The preset handle is only a benefit if you are going to spray an area without needing to move the trigger or, you may have a condition with your hands that means you find control difficult. You really need to be able to vary your trigger control from moment to moment and so it's likely not something you will need. I have one on the micron and never used it.

The eclipse also has a one piece trigger, which makes putting the brush back together much less fiddly. I'm not sure that the hpc+ has this - though I could (and often am lol) be wrong.

As said above, whichever you choose will be a good choice, so you cant go wrong.
 
Welcome to the forum! Plus one on the Eclipse if you go the Iwata route- I've been thinking about buying one of these cheap chinese knock-offs just to understand what beginners are truly up against.
 
Hey there, welcome from New Zealand. You won't make a bad decision with either brush but the difference is quite nominal, for me I wasn't (and still aren't) convinced the additional cost for the HPC+ gains you anything "better" than the eclipse, just different. I can attest to the eclipse as a great brush.
 
Welcome to the forum! Plus one on the Eclipse if you go the Iwata route- I've been thinking about buying one of these cheap chinese knock-offs just to understand what beginners are truly up against.

Fortunately they're cheap :). The main problem is lack of consistency. Every time you pull the trigger (the same way) you get a different result:
1. Like it should nice line.
2. Dashed or dotted line (line with gaps)
3. Variations in thickness because nothing is happening when you pull the trigger until....... "splat" :mad:

For fine lines the last two become very frustrating. Then is really is a casino brush, you never know what you are gonna get. Option 1 is an exception rather than a rule.
Larger areas are easier because you can build up the line and correct inconsistencies. I don't have the skills to pull this off for fine lines.

To beat the following comments, I keep my airbrush as clean as possible. Thorough clean after every session.

I hope go gain consistency with an IWATA brush, so I can only blame my poor skills, which hopefully will improve with practice.

Cheers,

Jasper
 
Sorry I'm late.......bad traffic ....

Welcome from Australia

and there is an echo around here....... Eclipse....... Eclipse.......... Eclipse
 
Welcome to the forum Jasper. We're here to help and advise if you need it. Enjoy your stay here, I hope it's a long stay.

Lee
 
Welcome jasper,im also a newbie with airbrushing and use an eclipse hp-cs.i havent used any other ab's before so i can't comment on them but can say the eclipse is a great place to start,works well,good width range and easy to clean.Hope this helps :)
 
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