Guitar cracks??

[Souldog Airbrush]

@Robbyrockett2

Damn guitars are something else , from the info u gave me , but thanks again mate

I know 0% about a bass gitar , i want to learn and play this one when done but my knowledge is very low on knowing the brand nor the model.
Someone gave this to me , and i cant find any serial numbers , brand names etc.
So i don't know wich clear there is on the bare wood itself.

If i go with autoborne sealer straight into the cracks and over the clear, i can not fill those cracks up (doesnt fill as far as i know), i was thinking about making a airbrush design around the cracks on purpose but if this happens for a customer's gitar iam 100% fornicateed.

But i will have a look at the Shellac too.

And i didn't know about the feel the gneck needs to be too, thanks for all the info

The 2k clear i am using for the project is is a polyurethane (air dry able) , pretty cool to test this one out , gonna do some test panels first.

 

[Robbyrockett2]

@Robbyrockett2

Damn guitars are something else , from the info u gave me , but thanks again mate

I know 0% about a bass gitar , i want to learn and play this one when done but my knowledge is very low on knowing the brand nor the model.
Someone gave this to me , and i cant find any serial numbers , brand names etc.
So i don't know wich clear there is on the bare wood itself.

If i go with autoborne sealer straight into the cracks and over the clear, i can not fill those cracks up (doesnt fill as far as i know), i was thinking about making a airbrush design around the cracks on purpose but if this happens for a customer's gitar iam 100% fornicateed.

But i will have a look at the Shellac too.

And i didn't know about the feel the gneck needs to be too, thanks for all the info

The 2k clear i am using for the project is is a polyurethane (air dry able) , pretty cool to test this one out , gonna do some test panels first.

No problem. I'm very far from a luthier myself

You can make any coating fill.
It's just a matter of spraying a coat, then sanding, then spraying, then sanding. Should only take a couple of cycles, but like I said I honestly don't know how well autoborne will seal or stick to nitro if thats what you have there.

Safest bet in the future is to sand to 400, shellac, sand to 400 and then go to town. Then it wont really matter what the original coating is.

 

[Jurien72]

One thing about painting musical instruments (especially for paying customers): The materials and processes you use can effect the tone quality of the guitar. Some people are very particular about what is used. I'm no expert but you certainly don't want to screw up somebody's prized instrument!!!

 

[Robbyrockett2]

Witchcraft I say!
IDK If I believe the tone thing on a solid body, fender paints em with whatever. The neck coating just has to have some flexibility.
But I mean if it's that prized I aint touchin the damn thing, especially the neck.... Take it to a real luthier.

 

[SiRoxx]

I was going to suggest maybe sanding it all back to wood, filling with PVA and sawdust, sanding the fills and going over with Autobourne sealer. I doubt there would be any reaction between PVA and Autobourne. It will adhere to wood fine and you should be good from there.


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[Robbyrockett2]

I was going to suggest maybe sanding it all back to wood, filling with PVA and sawdust, sanding the fills and going over with Autobourne sealer. I doubt there would be any reaction between PVA and Autobourne. It will adhere to wood fine and you should be good from there.


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Shouldnt need to fill if he goes back to wood. I think the cracks are just the clear. Great idea if im wrong and the woods got cracks.

 

[SiRoxx]

Shouldnt need to fill if he goes back to wood. I think the cracks are just the clear. Great idea if im wrong and the woods got cracks.

That’s very true! Between last night and this morning I’d forgotten that the cracks weren’t in the wood. Good catch Robby, thanks.


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[Robbyrockett2]

That’s very true! Between last night and this morning I’d forgotten that the cracks weren’t in the wood. Good catch Robby, thanks.


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I'm not entirely sure either way. I don't know if thats been found out for certain yet

 

[Souldog Airbrush]

Update! the neck is repaired , @basepaint helped me out on this one big time , but thanks to all


I used a Cellulose sanding sealer , with that i build alot of layers , sanding in between , until i had a flat surface.
At first i sprayed a grey primer/filler (Finixa) out of a can on top of the Cellulose sanding sealer , and this did work.
But i thought to myself the Cellulose Sanding sealer is a primer too so i threw Autoborne sealer on it without the Finixa primer.
Worked out very well

 

[SiRoxx]

Nice job Buddy. I’m glad it came out good in the end.


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[basepaint]

Update! the neck is repaired , @basepaint helped me out on this one big time , but thanks to all


I used a Cellulose sanding sealer , with that i build alot of layers , sanding in between , until i had a flat surface.
At first i sprayed a grey primer/filler (Finixa) out of a can on top of the Cellulose sanding sealer , and this did work.
But i thought to myself the Cellulose Sanding sealer is a primer too so i threw Autoborne sealer on it without the Finixa primer.
Worked out very well

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Glad to help and looks like a great repair

 

[Jurien72]

I can't wait to see it all finished! It seems that there should be plenty of people on here that could also help you learn to play!

 

[Souldog Airbrush]

I can't wait to see it all finished! It seems that there should be plenty of people on here that could also help you learn to play!

Yea now the basecoat black (sealer) with very reduced pearl gold over it is done , i clearcoated the gitar
Gonna sand it down and start the artwork on it , i had the idea to put every skateboard brand logo on top of it , a bit like the stickers everywhere style
Maybe some gold borders somewhere too but for now plenty of work on the logo's

@Jurien72
And with playing the gitar , haha its kinda funny because it's a right handed bass gitar , i am left handed so i need to play the gitar upside down.
I was thinking about maybe switching the strings on it to make it a little bit more a lefty gitar tho but i know nothing about that

Thanks for the support all!

pic:

ps. Gotta do around 51 logo's in total

-Souldog

 

[Jurien72]

I would think you need to have a new nut installed to reverse the strings. Other than that it would be a fairly easy thing to do. The strap button would have to find a new home on the "lower" horn.
I would also caution against painting anything on the fretboard- you don't see many guitars being played with paint on the fretboard. I know thats a weak excuse, but hey, there must be a good reason right? I think it would affect the feel when you play, and it's an area highly prone to wear. Most guitars you see with anything on the fretboard is done as an inlay. I do know one guy who put pictures of his favorite porn stars down the neck .

 

[Souldog Airbrush]

@Jurien72 ,
"I would think you need to have a new nut installed to reverse the strings. Other than that it would be a fairly easy thing to do. The strap button would have to find a new home on the "lower" horn. "

I literally don't understand any of what your saying my friend

Also what is the fretboard? , if that is where the wood en the little metal bars are , iam not painting that tho , on the picture it's the backside of the neck

 

[Jurien72]

yeah I thought about that as I hit send...

Guitar 101: Yes those little metal things are called frets. The board they are on is the fretboard. Up toward the string winders theres a little block at the end of the fretboard- that is the nut.
The strings lay in little grooves in the nut, and those grooves are sized according to the string they hold. If you are reversing the strings, they will obviously be backwards. It shouldn't be too difficult or expensive to have a nut made if thats the route you want to go.
The strap buttons should be two round things on the outer edge of the body somewhere. One of them should be where the Monster energy logo is- it would need to be relocated down where the Panda logo is. Hope that makes more sense!

 

[Souldog Airbrush]

Gotta little bit more wisdom now , thanks!
I will read this again when the paintjob is finished

 

[basepaint]

I would think you need to have a new nut installed to reverse the strings. Other than that it would be a fairly easy thing to do. The strap button would have to find a new home on the "lower" horn.
I would also caution against painting anything on the fretboard- you don't see many guitars being played with paint on the fretboard. I know thats a weak excuse, but hey, there must be a good reason right? I think it would affect the feel when you play, and it's an area highly prone to wear. Most guitars you see with anything on the fretboard is done as an inlay. I do know one guy who put pictures of his favorite porn stars down the neck .

Would it then be called a finger board and not a neck See ya in the gutterops:

 

[Jurien72]

Would it then be called a finger board and not a neck See ya in the gutterops:

Haha sorry, I was in the military and the use of "proper nomenclature" was beat into my head! So the fretboard is part of the neck. The redneck version is more like "the twangy parts go over the finger doohickies then they run waaay up yonder to the whatchamacallits"

 

[Souldog Airbrush]

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I just don't know why i keep getting those damn cracks but it's not gonna take long before i crack my windows also by throwing the damn gitar thru it

I only did a 2k clearcoat on it (brand Kristal 3.0) , what am i doing wrong?