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Discussion in 'Introductions!' started by mnmnmnmnm, May 19, 2018.


  1. Robbyrockett2

    Robbyrockett2 Air-Valve Autobot!

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    Umm ink is another ball game, i know nothing about it. Seems from watching others its much harder to use.
    Out of the paints at foxy i would go Createx illustration maybe etac. You'll have a lot of support that way as many people here use them.
    You'll be surprised how far they go. Working on posterboard, about 1m by 1/2m, each time i use a color its generally a number of drops, usually totaling less than ten, and half of that ends up washed out of the brush in the end. The only time you'll fill a cup is doing a full background color.

    For your purpose I would maybe think about switching to a system of golden airbrush medium, and using the acrylics you normally use.
    You could kind of streamline your paint system that way. For now though i would get a commonly used set of paint until your real familiar with how it should perform. Then you can start playing around with a lot less frustration.
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    I wouldnt be quick to blame your cleaning....even the best of the cheapo brushes require a lot of special care and fiddling to keep going well.
    Yellow I would consider buying a big bottle of, its so weak and used in so many color mixes you go through it like crazy.
    But By the time you are most of the way through a normal primary set you will have a better idea what will suit you
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    mnmnmnmnm Young Tutorling

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    Really? I had a feeling it was something like that, but how can it be? I mean it takes pretty much paint to cover a big area with paintbrush (oil/acrylics)

    I will order the rest tomorrow, (airbrush, paint, etc) but Im super grateful for the guidance I've got from here, I would have done a tone of expensive mistakes if it wasnt for this forum :p
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    Thats just spraying for you, not to mention an extremely high pigment load in AB paints compared to other types usually.
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    lol, that will teach me for sleeping and actually doing some work...... you guys have been going nuts.

    I'll go back to where i left off and put my 2 cents worth in for each post, so i apologise for the next manic post a thon
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    Robbyrockett2 Air-Valve Autobot!

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    LOL I was wondering where you were
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    I have the same type of setup in my shed, Compressor>hose>regulator-watertrap>hose>mini moisture trap>QuickConnect>airbrush.
    It works well, i've had minimal water trapped by the one closest to the compressor, and that was in the middle of winter. I've never had anything in the mini one at the airbrush end.
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    lol, my name isnt MacD, I actually sleep, and occasionally do some work while i'm at work !
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    Jurien72 Have Airbrush - Will Travel!

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    If I can stick my two cents in here, when you apply acrylics with a brush you're generally applying a thick layer of paint. With an airbrush you are applying a microscopically thin layer of paint. Therefore a few drops can really last a long time. Also you will probably end up reducing the paint which will make it last even longer. Some people have bottles that last them for years.
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    the only comment i have here is that you dont have a nozzle on the list,
    there are cheaper spray out post than the iwata, but still look professional (ebay if youre not in a hurry, I bought one and sitting alongside the genuine iwata you cant pick the difference ! )

    The createx cleaner and restorer will only be required if you are going to use createx paints, If you are going to use Golden or Etac then you wont benefit from these createx products.
    If you are going to play with Createx then the restorer is almost compulsory, remember its reuseable (a small jar-like the small siphon feed glass jars is a handy thing) make sure you dont get 'Airbrush colors' as they are aimed at the textile side of things. Wicked / Wicked Detail / Illustration all have a learning curve that many cant cope with...... dont say you werent warned.
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    Haha, I just picked a random cleaning liquid, but I'll make the order tomorrow, so I will read everything tomorrow and go from that.
    What do you think of the compressor I bought? :D

    I dont know yet which brand Im going to use for paint. but I will take that into consideration :) Everything is new for me, so Im learning from this thread (and some youtube videos).

    edit: I was going to add nozzle but I didnt know which, and it was so expensive. I will add it tomorow. bedtime now. thanks all!
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    a quick connect with the Mac (Micro Air Control) built in is better than buying Mac specific airbrushes, many have issues knocking the inbuilt one as it sits just under the airbrush cup.

    The G-Mac will fit the Iwata - I've had this for 5 years, brilliant unit, dial is large.
    https://www.amazon.com/Grex-G-MAC-Valve-Connect-Coupler/dp/B002XQ2K84
    after seeing a post by AndreZA i bought a Harder & Steenbeck quick connect with Mac Valve. smaller dial which may/maynot be to your liking.
    https://spraygunner.com/quick-coupling-1-8-with-valve/

    Dont overlook Spraygunner for the other parts too........ I'll do an equivilant shopping list to what you had above so you can compare prices. Even i've bought from him, and i'm at the opposite end of the globe, he's brilliant to deal with
    EDIT: spraygunner only sells second hand Iwata's that have been traded in, all serviced before selling.
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    I thought the same thing when i started..... if you are using Createx then you will be very unlikely to use it unreduced, so you'll add reducer and you'll be amazed how much 'coverage' you'll get from just a few drops. as stated already, its heavily pigmented so a little goes a long way.
    Etac EFX can be used straight out of the bottle or reduced with water if needed, they do make a couple of 'additives' for various things like hardening the paint.

    Its also very rare you 'fill' a cup and use it all, unless you are starting and fill the cup then wind up throwing 3/4 of it out because you didnt use as much as you thought you would. (been there)

    just remember, the more you 'add' to the paint the more the pigment is dispersed which means the colour sprays lighter, which means you need more layers to get full saturation.
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    When you lay paint with a paint brush the layer of paint may be half a millimetre thick, when you airbrush you are talking microns thick (1,000 microns to a millimetre)
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    I didn't really set out to get all built in macs, just happened. They dont bother me a bit, sometimes I use them sort of as a forward grip.
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    but for the extra that you have unintentionally spent on MAC brushes, you could have bought a decent external MAC quick connect and put all the savings into a new airbrush lol

    Just remember when you get a quick connect you will need the male adapter to screw onto the airbrush. usually less than EUR6
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    I have qc's
    Extra? not sure if you can beat $90 for ps-270 :) It's a serious value
    And the $35 pz360 well...cant really spend extra there
    Eventually I'll probably need an external mac but probably not for a while.
    But yeah, they just kind of came with the other features I hunted out.
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