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Discussion in 'Beginners Airbrush Questions!' started by Paul Dasvis, Mar 8, 2017.


  1. Paul Dasvis

    Paul Dasvis Young Tutorling

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    I seem to be struggling with simple things, it's making me crazy...

    First from time to time I get a single speck, is that caused from tip dry? Speaking of which it seems like a common problem even with reducer. I'm spraying creatix illustration colors, through a iwata neo and a paasche talon (which I'm still getting used too)...

    The hard part for me is laying colors, my instinct is to rush it, and we all know what happens then...

    Lastly I can't seem to get a consistent fine line, they start out fine then get spotty. is there a secret I'm missing.

    Thank you
    -Paul-
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    What ratio reducer:paint are you using at what PSI ?
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    Paul Dasvis Young Tutorling

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    about 10% reducer on average, my PSI is normally around 10-15.
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    Firstly apologies for the random emoji in the middle of the sentence...... gremlins !

    I cant remember if you mentioned which model of Neo you had but,
    The neo CN is a .35 needle and you may need more reducer for your current pressure
    the neo HPC is a .5 needle and should cope with that reduction, may need to up the pressure a little

    very likely. some colours are worse than others. White is notorious for it.
    As a newbie there is a tendancy to concentrate so hard on your paint/air technique that you wind up more often with a lot of air compared to paint, so any paint that is on the needle dries when you put the air back on. You wind up with excess paint on the tip because you stopped the air before the paint with the last pass.
    Are you having fun yet, does your head hurt, do you have any hair left to pull out LOL
    It WILL get better if you can persevere I promise

    if its grainy then you may need to up the pressure as it sounds as if the paint isn't atomising properly. OR you have bad tip dry that hasn't been properly cleared.

    as a 'general' starting point with Createx Illustration I use 50:50 reducer and paint... you don't need to fill the cup. 10drop or less of each will go a long way at low pressure. put in the reducer, the add the paint, backflush or put the cap on and shake, to mix.

    with the trigger pressed on the air brush set the regulator on around 20psi.
    do a test spray,
    If its spidering (pressure to high) then lower the pressure until its spraying nicely without spidering. OR add some more paint, be aware that this will darken the result on paper, lighter paint and more layers to make it darker is a good methodology.

    it can be a balancing act when you first start and its frustrating personified and just when you think its all starting to come together, the weather changes and you need to adjust again.

    working with high pressure will generally reduce tip dry as it blows the paint off before it becomes a problem. but high pressure and trying to do detail wont work LOL

    Give it a try and see what happens
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    Paul Dasvis Young Tutorling

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    I tried thinning the paint about 50/50, worked better, still playing with pressure but I was able to get more consistent lines. Thank you for the assist, as soon as I got home from work I headed out and started testing, going to be out of black soon with all this playing LOL...

    -Paul-
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    with greater reduction and lower pressure you'll use less paint,
    In the beginning we all used more paint than we do now, its just a necessary evil in learning process.

    Let us know how you go.
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    Paul Dasvis Young Tutorling

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    Thanks for all the help, I played with 50/50 and 40/60, was able to lower my pressure way down. Also played with adding transparent base for highlites. I was able to use much less paint and get really good coverage.

    -Paul-
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