Master C28 vs TC20

E

elation

Guest
Hello, a long time modeler coming back to modeling.
I bought this kit when I was 13-14, and used till 16 until I stopped modeling.
ps152.jpg


Having a proper brush was always been a dream and I think I will pull the trigger sometime soon.
Someone recommended me a G22/C28 kit and I've been doing a little bit of research. Seems like TCP site doesn't even list the C28 compressor anymore. Is it an old model and replaced by TC20 compressor?
Which one should I go for?

and not sure the differences between G22,G23,G223, G34,G44 brushes. So many to choose from.

G22 with C28
http://www.amazon.com/Master-Airbru...qid=1447871224&sr=8-1&keywords=master+g22+c28

G22 with TC20
http://www.amazon.com/Master-Airbru...d=1447871381&sr=8-13&keywords=master+g22+tc20
 
I will not buy any kit. Just get an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and a good compressor. If you look after it, your children will still use it when they build models.
 
Honestly saying one piston chinese comressors are crap especially those without the tank. They're overheated easily and they don't live long.
I'd buy only two piston with the tank something like http://www.tcpglobal.com/ABD-TC-828.html#.VkzItNLhDwc
Besides overheating you'll have moisture in the hose, I think you don't dream about that;) And one piston type without the tank can not provide constant air flow they give pulsation of the air into the hose. I'd never buy any compressor without the tank.
I used in the beginning of ABing those chinese airbrushes and I'd say buy maybe this one http://www.tcpglobal.com/MAS-G444-SET.html?sc=113&category=3101398#.VkzKfNLhDwc
 
A Neo is a chinese airbrush with the Iwata name on it. The Eclipse is a true Iwata airbrush. Master AB and quality really don't belong in the same sentence. You can spend $200 now and $450 later or just pay the $450 now, your choice. Skip ebay. I am sure our canadian folks can direct you to better sources.
 
elation
If you had made your first post an introduction located here http://www.airbrushforum.org/introductions/
and gave us information like where you live, what is your goals with the airbrush it would be a lot easier to give you advice on where to buy.
You have a budget of 400 dollars .
Okay if you lived in the USA and had a hobby lobby close by you could print a 40% off coupon you could get this http://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-&-Hobbies/Model-Kits/Airbrushes/HP-CS-Eclipse-Airbrush-Kit/p/848 for 126 dollars plus tax .
So I hope you can understand why we do push for a proper introduction .
Now please follow the introduction link and go make one.
 
Done! Thank you.

Oh, I didn't have a budget of $400.
I was thinking $200 to start up.
But not sure anymore.
 
elation said:
Done! Thank you.

Oh, I didn't have a budget of $400.
I was thinking $200 to start up.
But not sure anymore.
Click to expand...

Greg has said the bare thruth:) As I've spent money on chinese ABs and the compressor for the start and when I've bought my first Iwata I've understood that it would be better to buy one Eclipse or High Perfomance than lots of chinese pieces of metal called airbrushes. Though if I wouldn't buy them my AB start would be postponed. So... it's up to you what to buy. We have described results of our experience.
 
Then there is buying paint, medium (You need something to paint on right?), erasers, scalpels, a cleaning kit, cleaning solution and lots of reducer! To say nothing of stencils or a stencil cutter and mylar, classes or online instruction, a decent easel, and a ventilation system. That $200 is going to add a 0 very quickly before you know it. And then there is the dreaded Airbrush Acquisition Syndrome!
 
AndreZA said:
I will not buy any kit. Just get an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and a good compressor. If you look after it, your children will still use it when they build models.
Click to expand...
I second that starting out I bought a neo and had minor issues and would recommend the HP-cs eclipse. If you want to save money goto hobby lobby and download their app. Each week they have a 40% off coupon it's limited but I have yet to see it say no airbrush. Best way to get that brush.
 
I have no clue on the import model. Leave that for the others.
 
Probably the cheapest one I could find locally. They send 20-25% coupons once in a while.

ECL4501 Iwata Eclipse CS Airbrush Set. with 10' braided hose. --$149
https://www.currys.com/product.htm?Product=ECL4501&Source=Category&Category=IWATA_AIRBRUSHES

IS850 Iwata Smart Jet Studio Compressor. --$316.59
Is this a good compressor?
https://www.currys.com/product.htm?Product=IS850&Source=Category&Category=IWATA_COMPRESSORS

Maybe I will get these two once I decide to go for it.


Probably worth buying this kit @ --$480.
Not sure what kind of hose it comes with. The brush above comes with a 10" braided one.

IW200 Iwata Deluxe Airbrush Set
https://www.currys.com/product.htm?Product=IW200&Source=Category&Category=IWATA_AIRBRUSHES
 
The only issue with the Japan import Iwatas is they you won't be eligible for local warranty service. IMO not quite a big deal with the entry level brushes like the Eclipses, as warranty will only come into play if there's a manufacturing defect with the body. Would want that extra level of assurance with a Micron or Hi-Line, but with an Eclipse I would personally consider it OK. I have two Iwatas, and neither are under local warranty (one bought used, the other import) but they are well made enough that I feel pretty safe w/ the fact that I can replace anything but the body itself.

I actually spoke to the Iwata-Medea USA folks about this when I bought my import, and they were cool. Said they were fully able to provide tech support, they just couldn't do physical servicing. They were able to verify my import was genuine, and answer some nitty-gritty questions I had which required them to examine copies of the same model on their end.

I highly recommend Iwata's polyurethane hoses over braided or vinyl hoses. Closest you can get to no hose at all, weight and flexibility wise, and no more expensive.

You will need a regulator and moisture trap, so factor in that cost if a kit you're considering doesn't include one or both.

If you're doing models instead of illustration, IMO don't go with a kit that includes paints if it means accepting a trade off on the hardware. You can probably get good airbrush model paints locally. Model Master are very hit-and-miss (some pots great, some terrible, seemingly at random) but Tamiya is consistently good. Testers has a new line formulated for their Aztek brushes witch is actually pretty good (and cheap too). Mind the coupons for the major craft/art/hobby chains, and you can make out very well.
 
Last edited:
Thanks for your inputs everyone.
The compressor IS850 does include the regulator and the moisture trap as shown in the video.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

P
Timbertech airbrush kit?
Replies
2
Views
226
Lance Whitford
L
A
My favorite accessory
Replies
8
Views
179
Joe Aubrey
J
D
Sharpening/Reshaping needles and keeping Original needle profile.
Replies
14
Views
364
Drastion
D
Kentucky Steve
Are these good for the airbrush?
Replies
4
Views
984
Kentucky Steve
Kentucky Steve
H
Createx 22 Paint Set - Good Deal/Paints?
2
Replies
29
Views
4K
huskystafford
huskystafford
Back
Top