For Every Airbrush Artist!

Ready to get involved? Register for free and you won't see any google advertising!

Register

Microns ordered! Tips very welcome!

Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by Arent Jack, Dec 7, 2017.


  1. Arent Jack

    Arent Jack Triple Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Location:
    Avoch, Scotland - UK
    Hi guys!

    I ordered an Iwata Custom Micron CM-C plus v2 and a CM-SB v2. Any tips for daily use? I have no idea how to clean the CM-SB or how to prepare it for the next color. What is the ideal psi setting for it? I only ever used gravity feed...
  2. Mr.Micron

    Mr.Micron Royal pain in the air hose Admin

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    15,023
    Likes Received:
    9,750
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Bloomington,Indiana
    Same as you do any airbrush, Run some reducer through it to wash out the old color then add in the new. The only time I do a total tear down is if I happen to get a bad clog or I know I will be storing it away for a long time.
    Arent Jack likes this.
  3. Arent Jack

    Arent Jack Triple Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Location:
    Avoch, Scotland - UK
    That’s a relief! I thought it would be very complicated!
  4. JackEb

    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Messages:
    7,341
    Likes Received:
    6,461
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Mt Barker, South Australia
    no more hazardous than any other brush, except you'll be nervous because the nozzles/head assemblies arent cheap.....

    Its common for new owners of side feeds to not realise that the bottom of the cup unscrews to aid in cleaning, just dont lose the little plasic disc. Sometimes the bottom is on pretty tight so it might need a bit of help from a rag and pliers :)

    Interdental brushes are great at getting into the small tube. you can also remove the plug on the opposite side and use a pipecleaner to clean right through the body from one side to the other.

    dont use the standard 'airbrush cleaning brushes' on any airbrush the wire can damage the airbrush, use them in the shed instead.
    musicmacd, Arent Jack and doc1 like this.
  5. Jurien72

    Jurien72 Have Airbrush - Will Travel!

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2017
    Messages:
    1,475
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Somewhere in the U.S.
    I don't own a Micron (yet ;) ) but as far as pressure and reducing go, you will probably want something very thin and you will be able to go very low on pressure - down to 5 psi or so. At least that is what my Infinity likes. Did you mean siphon feed?
    Arent Jack likes this.
  6. JackEb

    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Messages:
    7,341
    Likes Received:
    6,461
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Mt Barker, South Australia
    i can go lower psi with my CM-SB than i with my CM-B, it doesnt make any sense at all but i can.
    Arent Jack likes this.
  7. AndreZA

    AndreZA Elite Member! Elite Member!

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,440
    Likes Received:
    5,387
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    The only time you need to unscrew the bottom of the cup on the HP-SB is when you're going from dark to light colours. Then you need to clean underneath the inset in the cup.
    musicmacd and Arent Jack like this.
  8. Arent Jack

    Arent Jack Triple Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Location:
    Avoch, Scotland - UK
    Yeah I am kind of nervous because of the price of the nozzles! Will be afraid to use them without nozzle cap!!! What do you use for the inside? Just cotton buds? Are they safe to use in the sonic cleaner with this MAC valve?
  9. Arent Jack

    Arent Jack Triple Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Location:
    Avoch, Scotland - UK
    I can’t wait to try it out!
  10. musicmacd

    musicmacd Air-Valve Autobot! Very Likeable!

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    5,190
    Likes Received:
    8,590
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Never thought of that! Thanks
  11. musicmacd

    musicmacd Air-Valve Autobot! Very Likeable!

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    5,190
    Likes Received:
    8,590
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Brisbane
    I use Createx Illustration paints straight out the bottle at 23psi. Has plenty of tip dry so the needle cap needs to be off so you can clean the needle.
    You can avoid tip dry by thinning with reducer 3/1 to paint, sprays perfect, just needs more coats to achieve saturation, I use this a lot to shift colours around!
    Basstrack238 and Arent Jack like this.
  12. musicmacd

    musicmacd Air-Valve Autobot! Very Likeable!

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    5,190
    Likes Received:
    8,590
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Brisbane
    I use Baby buds for my side feed, then run water through it till it sprays clear. Usually about 4-5cups, if you keep your gun clean you shouldn't have to take the noozle out, it's all good practice really.saying that we all make mistakes and leave the paint in the gun overnight and need to strip down the whole thing :( worry about that when it happens! Plenty of info here about it!
    Get a x60 Loupe, you can't assess a noozle or needle state without one - Foxy sell a good one
    Arent Jack likes this.
  13. jord001

    jord001 Air-Valve Autobot!

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    3,754
    Likes Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Birmingham UK
    I leave my air pressure between 1.5 and 2 bar 22 - 28 psi approx, clean as normal.

    Lee
    Arent Jack likes this.
  14. Arent Jack

    Arent Jack Triple Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Location:
    Avoch, Scotland - UK
    I’m not sure what baby buds are? Some type of cloth!!? I got s small digital microscope that goes up to 1000x! Works great!
  15. Malky

    Malky Pencil Pushing Protagonist Very Likeable!

    Joined:
    May 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,846
    Likes Received:
    2,265
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    KIlsyth, Glasgow, Scotland
    Wattenstaafjes:)

    images.jpeg
    Arent Jack and doc1 like this.
  16. Vladimir

    Vladimir Mac-Valve Maestro!

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    964
    Likes Received:
    666
    Trophy Points:
    91
    Location:
    Ukraine, Kiev
    It's always great choice to buy a micron!;)

    Here are some ideas for you.

    For preparing the AB for the next colour you need to clean the paint passage with water or solvent (depending on the paint you use). For side feed there's good idea to use 2Oz bottle.
    You can also buy different cups for the side feed. I prefer those with the lids.

    cups.JPG

    Part number for the bottle:

    2oz_bottle.JPG

    Ideas for cleaning the cup:


    cup_cleaning.JPG

    I also use these brushes for cleaning paint passages inside the ABs.

    For the nozzle buy nozzle sealant. For all the ABs it's great thing, especially for the expensive micron nozzles. When using the sealant you need to apply less pressure, so no need to worry if you'd break it or not while tightening the nozzle. And after the cleaning, where the last step is applying the sealant, your ABs always spray like new.
    jord001, Arent Jack and doc1 like this.
  17. Arent Jack

    Arent Jack Triple Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Location:
    Avoch, Scotland - UK
    Thanks so much for the tips! I ordered the bottle! I also ordered liquid gasket as nozzle sealant, it’s blue, is that the kind you use? Thanks again so much!
    jord001 likes this.
  18. Malky

    Malky Pencil Pushing Protagonist Very Likeable!

    Joined:
    May 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,846
    Likes Received:
    2,265
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    KIlsyth, Glasgow, Scotland
    If you ordered two micron airbrushes bear in mind these are precision tools as is reflected in the price, they don't come with nozzle sealant because they just don't need it, if you take an iwata micron out if it's box brand new and discover it does need sealant then there is something wrong with it and you should send it back, I strongly advise you never to put anything on your brush that wasn't on it already, of all the iwatas I've had I have never needed any type of sealant anywhere near the head, I've occasionally had bubbles at the nozzle cap but as suggested by the vendor I simply screwed off the nozzle cap and replaced it, you will only need sealant if your brush is really old and parts get worn or you drop the brush and end up with a slight bend or broken threads.

    When your brushes arrive, before the first use carefully remove the needles and clean off any factory oils because they gunge up after a while of sitting around, replace your needles and run a little cleaner through and you're ready to go, if you clean them properly after use you don't need to do anything else.
  19. Vladimir

    Vladimir Mac-Valve Maestro!

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    964
    Likes Received:
    666
    Trophy Points:
    91
    Location:
    Ukraine, Kiev
    Man, don't apply that blue liquid gasket!!! Show it here before putting it onto the AB nozzle thread. You can get into a story, if I think what that stuff is. It's hardening into a state when you'll need a heat gun to unscrew your nozzle and more likely you'll break it. Though, this sealant I use anywhere on air line threads and in other places where good permanent sealing of the threads is required.

    For AB nozzles there's great stuff in the kit http://www.airbrushforum.org/threads/airbrush-maintenance-kit.19236/
    I highly recommend the sealant from this kit.
  20. jord001

    jord001 Air-Valve Autobot!

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    3,754
    Likes Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Birmingham UK
    JackEb likes this.

Share This Page