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  1. Joe A

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    Before I ramble:

    Createx Illustration Black on 5" x 7" Yupo Heavy (144 lb)
    Iwata Eclipse HP-CS
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    I recently ordered a small pad of Heavy Yupo paper. I keep reading about synthetic paper and the price was right.

    After reading some of the issues others had, I thought I'd try a sheet and kill two birds with one stone. I masked off half of the sheet and laid down a layer of of Autoborne Sealer White to use as a primer.

    This is what I learned from this project:

    It's hard (for me) to spray white on white without a visual indication of how much you are laying down (until it's too late and there's a runny mess).

    A hole punch is easier (and faster) for creating mounting points on a paper stencil.

    Erasing works nicely on the bare paper with a hard or soft eraser but the soft eraser hardly does a thing on the side that had the sealer. The hard eraser needs to be used very gently otherwise you risk completely removing both paint and sealer.

    I did not like scratching on either the bare surface or the primed surface. I'm sure it's just something I'm doing wrong but I ended up damaging the surface trying this.

    I really enjoyed working on the bare surface. I look forward to working through the rest of the pad and it's already the right size for PP!

    This is the pad I ordered. [​IMG]

    This is my reference photo. [​IMG]

    And here is my work. I forgot to take pictures as I was going so I only have the completed photo. I was too focused to reach for my camera. lol

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    I'm appreciate all critiques and suggestions. Thanks for looking!



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    Almost forgot, I did use a wooden skewer (the type used for ka bobs) to hold down parts of the template where the edges wouldn't stay completely flat and it worked out really well. I was also able to use the wooden skewer point to scratch and clean some edges without damaging the paper. This worked out really nice. I'm sure rounded toothpicks would do the same trick but the longer length of the skewer was easier to handle and control.


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    Good job! What did you use to mask off your egg and forks? Careful on the cutting to create a round surface. Good work on the experimentation and the mini SBS.
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    Thanks! I used 24 lb inkjet paper. It was all I had available and it worked fairly well. I started out using a gyro cut tool but I didn't like the way it cut the paper. That tool, in my opinion, is better on Mylar sheets or vinyl. I ended up just going back to my Xacto for better results. Will definitely be more careful on those curves next time.


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    If you prime the Yupo first as you did with that half you laid white on, you eliminate the uniqueness of the surface, and might as well be working on any other surface :).

    Createx cures in stages, and you can get different results by waiting different amounts of time between spraying, and working over the sprayed layer. It takes some trial and error, and some experimentation.

    On masks, I have gotten into the habit of using different materials based on the result I am after. I use regular 20lb copy paper if I am looking for softer edges. Maybe 32 or 60lb for a cleaner edge, or move up to card stock, or even thin Yupo for real clean edges.

    For a first shot, I think you did great. Synthetic papers are for sure different, and require a bit of a learning curve to really take advantage of. I have about a dozen paintings lined up on one wall in my studio, and the one thing I will say is that the ones that are painted on Yupo stand out from the rest. Colors are brighter, details sharper, and they just seem to pop more than those on illustration board, or canvas panel...
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    Thanks Dave! Really appreciate the input! I'm going to experiment with different types of masks. I have some transparency sheets I may try as well.


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    A very informative SBS and a cool result!

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    Thanks!


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    It came out great.

    That is what I've been saying since forever. If you are covering/sealing any paper/surface you are not longer working on that surface but on the sealant.
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    Looks great! Play away and post up :)
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    Nice job and experimentation. Scratching is a bit touch and go, I use a curved blade which helps. The skewer is a good idea and i believe the fibreglass pens work well on yupo too. You did well and the more you do the better you get. Stencils are a pain to cut and that's the same, they get easier with practise. Your doing great.

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    Thanks! I really appreciate the encouragement. You guys are awesome!


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    that looks very nice! how is the yupo paper to work on?

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    I really liked it. I made the mistake of priming it but it's not needed. I'm going to continue to work on these small, heavy sheets and plan on getting the larger sheets later. I also have about 20 Masonite panels that have been prepped with gesso that I want to try but right now I'm really liking the Yupo.


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    Looks really good, a touch to dark on the right side but still looks great.

    I love working on yupo especially with a fiberglass pen.
    If yoy havent tried clayboard yet i highly recommend it. It does everything well. It is a bit expensive but buy a packafe of 5X7 or 9X12 and try it, if you like it you can make your own for 10% the cost of ampersands.
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    How different is clayboard from Masonite that has gesso on it?


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    Ive found that clayboard erases and scratches easier then gesso and it doesnt absorb as much paint as gesso.

    Having tried both i prefer clayboard over gesso any day.
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    Already reading about it. lol

    I'm always open to trying different substrates. See what I like.


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