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Discussion in 'Getting Real!' started by Graywolf, Dec 29, 2015.


  1. Graywolf

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    Hey gang I've been trying to do a portrait of my late mom and dad for the rest of the family and when I use a projector to layout the image the pencils that I have are way to dark for the lines and so on even with me letting it rest on the foam boards that I'm wanting to do these on and at this point I'm just about ready to pull what little hair that I have left out. On this one pencil it has a 2 HB if that means anything but this is basically my second time trying to get this right without any lines lefted over. The first one came out so so but my mom was able to see it before she'd pass away now my sister has that one with her before I could take pictures of it. But as always Thanks in advance and Happy New Years
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    Use an eraser so you can barely see the lines. I sometimes paint up to a line then erase it and then continue
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    Not sure what the question is.

    Depending on the technique used darklines don't have to be a problem. When using layers and erasing just make sure all lines in the lighter areas are removed during erasing phases, in the dark parts paint will cover it.

    Another option might be water color pencils as they will disolve in the paint. A light ocher for color portraits works nice, and a light grey could be used for monochrome (though I'd rather stick with erasing and covering there as this might give some discoloration which can stand out when painting in only one color).

    On a side note when doing a portrait that acualy has to resemble someone I find it easier to make a print the size I'm going to paint it, and cut a msak for initial guide points, building a scetch from that. This way your reference is exactly the same size as your painting which makes it a lot easier to check shapes and forms and prevents you from having to translate the size of shapes a smaller or larger reference image.

    When you can't get around to using a beamer I'd advice to stick a piece of paper on the board you just made your scetch on and coppy the image again. That way you atleast have a reference at hand on which the size corresponds with your painting enabeling you to check stuff when needed.
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    I think he was asking about whether to use a softer pencil.
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    I use mechanical pencils but apply very little pressure and as H had said they get painted over or erased when doing the work.
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    Yes but on foam board the slightest indent and you will not be able to erase foam board is a pig to work on for this reason, it looks great, nice and smooth etc etc but I think it's really geared for techniques where we add paint rather than take it away (same goes for pencil lens too), you could try with a very soft eraser like a knead able eraser which may find its way in to the crevases
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    Good point
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    I paint on foamboard occasionally. Ive often wished it was more dense.
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    Easy solved...Don't paint on foamboard LOL...Its not the only issue with foamboard, try some primed MDF or another type of substrate, you will enjoy it much more..But the 2HB is just pencil hardness (Its in the middle of the range)..I'd suggest getting a HB or 2B graphite pencil...Much softer and won't dint the foamboard as bad as a standard cheap leaded style pencil and only hold the pencil by the extreme end..personally I wouldnt erase on foamboard that early in the process as it does show through later as paint will adhere to that erased area differently..foamboard really shows that up...But if you do go to dark, there is no harm in dulling it down with a new light base coat of white or whatever base color you plan to use for the early portrait layers, just keep basing with a reduced paint until you can just see the lines still poking through....But yer, i'd mainly suggest a different surface as ad fez says, it looks good, seems like it will do the job then it excrements you LOL..It can give intersting texture though as the paint will be inclined often on foamboard to group rather than evenly disperse..but that depends a bit on the paint too..best of luck..
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