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ABOUT IWATA AND GSI CREOS

Discussion in 'Introductions, We'd like to say Hi' started by Richar Huisa, Oct 7, 2021.


  1. Richar Huisa

    Richar Huisa Young Tutorling

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    Hi everyone. I am new to the forum, I am learning to use the airbrush, I have a Crescendo 175 siphon, it works very well for backgrounds and somewhat large things, you can work with some detail as well. I would like to do things a little smaller and in detail, so I was thinking of an Iwata Eclipse HP-BCS, but studying the subject a little I see that it is similar to the 175 that I have, then I thought that an Iwata eclipse HP-CS would be better. Since I saw that the tip is 0.35, now I found a lot of good criticism that the GSI Creos Mr. Airbrush Procon Boy PS-289, is very good like the Iwata, but with a somewhat lower cost.

    Please can you help me understand it. And also know which of them you use.
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    markjthomson AKA QuickDraw and very happy #nobrushleftbehind Staff Member Admin SuperMod

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    Hi Richar, welcome from New Zealand. There are lots of things on your question. I would suggest you start a second post in the airbrushes section. I'm pretty sure you'll get plenty of good feedback. Here is a starter. The eclipse is a great brush. In terms of brushes... you get what you pay for. The eclipse will be a better buy than the Mr Hobby brush. The late may (or may not...) be what it's billed as, while the eclipse has a whole lot of history behind it. You will not make a bad decision buying an eclipse and it will be money well spent. With the eclipse you will not need to buy twice.

    In terms of detail, that is practice and skill... time and time and time... dots and lines... I have an eclipse as my primary brush. It's not the only good one out there but it is a solid contender as one of the best all rounders on the market.
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    Richar Huisa Young Tutorling

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    Thank you very much Mark is great advice.
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    AlaskaJason Young Tutorling

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    DaveG on here has a great Facebook blog with a ton of info on Iwata vs. GSI Creos. Apparently Iwata, Creos, and Richpen are all made by a company called Fuso the difference being the tolerance levels that each of the companies have for the product. By all accounts the GSI Creos brushes are as good as Iwata brushes but at half the cost, so far more value for money.
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  5. Mr.Micron

    Mr.Micron Royal pain in the air hose Staff Member Admin SuperMod Very Likeable!

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    Welcome home Richar.
    When you can detail and small what are you painting?
    To most a detail airbrush is .23 or smaller nozzle. While the .5 and .35 can do some nice detail with a lot of practice most find it a lot easier to just get a brush for super fine detail.
    The Micron CM or the PS770 or 771 Price wise the PS from Creos is a far better investment at half the price of the Iwata Micron CM. Parts from either can interchange but I have found the Creos parts a little more durable .
    While I have a array of airbrushes I mainly use the Iwata CS and my Micron but the PS wasn't being made back then.
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    Ronald art Air-Valve Autobot! Very Likeable!

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    for what it is worth I own a 0.35 side feed eclipse and the Creos 0.3 side feed ( all my airbrushes are side feeds ;) ) and to me the Creos is the better airbrush or should I say easier to handle airbrush I had it converted to a 0.2 nozzle but changed it back to the 0.3 as the difference between the both set up wasnt that big and I already have a 0.2 HP SB+ as a back up to my CM SB
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    Richar Huisa Young Tutorling

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    Thank you very much for your comment, you have helped me a lot.
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    Richar Huisa Young Tutorling

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    Thanks every time I have less doubts, Another point that I heard is about the poor quality of the Micron hose, is the connector special or is it a standard one and can I change it with another easily?
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    Richar Huisa Young Tutorling

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    Thank you very much for the idea, the machine is very versatile, so I think I will go for it soon.
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    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

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    I'm not sure what you mean when you suggest the Micron hose is poor quality ? there is no such thing as a specific 'Micron Hose' as far as I'm aware
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    Mr.Micron Royal pain in the air hose Staff Member Admin SuperMod Very Likeable!

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    Jackie is right about not having a special hose for the micron. I have used the same hose for more then a decade
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