Need no candy with wicked detail
A possible explenation is that the paint was reduced with the transparant base, I sprayed with it but it was in premixed bottles already... So in my experience it was not opaque.
Will have to order a set of my own...
:dispirited:...... Let me try again... There seems to be some confusion that science is not the deciding factor here, but instead
it's more of whatever you like to call it.
Almost all waterbased paint companies promote and sell there products as one of three things: Opaque
, (which is still an opaque, just with less solids), but it's not a dye
like transparents so it can stand alone without a bright base under it.
So it's still two schools of thought: solid pigments
-AutoAir and Createx lines both have some of all three types.
-Regular Wicked colors
are promoted as semi-opaque
with a "very high pigment
load". It still has solids in it, but less than their white and black which are called standard opaques
...if you build up their other colors enough it will eventually have enough solids between you and the surface to reach an absolute color, like regular opaques.
Wicked Detail doesn't promote there paint to be one or another, there is no W D red opaque and a W D red transparent. But they do promote the fact that the pigment
sizes are sheared down finer than there other paints.
To me the Wicked Detail black and white act like any opaque paint I've used. The colors seem weaker in a way, like they are over-reduced, almost semi-opaques
. But they do give full coverage, even over dark bases.
Here's a field test:
If you spray your paint on a black
background and it shows up vibrant...opaque
. If it shows up as a muddy tone shift...transparent
backgrounds will show both. One reflects back the color of the pieces of pigment(opaque), one reflects back the color of the white paper through the "dye" in the paint(transparent). Both may look blue, but the eye sees blue for different reasons.
If you've read or heard somewhere that opaques spray solid and transparents build up in darkness, and that is what you are basing you thought process on...stop
. If you grab some white paper, throw in some black opaque paint and lay down a nice wide, medium line. You can go over it a gain and it will darken, but that is not proof of transparency over opacity. It's simple coverage of the white base showing through.
And yes, Wicked Detail talks about using a transparent base or binder(but, most do. what else would you use to carry a color?),And the word "transparent" is in there but don't let that confuse you...it's chocked full of solid, colored, little pieces of pigment
or "fillers", not
dyes.(which makes it opaque) They even brag about small PIGMENT
SIZE in the Detail line.
, do not have little solid pieces of colored particles in it, as a rule most are dyes
or something similar.
Wicked does like to say in their adds for Detail, that the transparent binder can give it some of the characteristics of transparents when reduced enough, but over-reducing anything will make it so it doesn't give full coverage. It doesn't make the cow a horse just because it has a saddle and you can ride it to town.
I get the impression, FirePanther, that you believe there is some grey area to the subject, to each his own, and all that..."So in my experience it was not opaque"
Your bottle of Wicked Detail has pieces of pigment
, extra finely ground, but still pieces of pigment,
Wicked says so themselves. Which is probably, the
deciding factor between opaque and transparent. It's not each painters opinion, it's what's in the product to reflect a color back to the eye.
Here it is from Createx themselves,
: Solid colors with excellent coverage for use as base color.
: Bright, vibrant colors which do not have fillers for opacity
. Transparent colors work best over a white base or other bright color.
All Wicked Detail and regular Wicked have solid pigments for opacity or for lightfastness in thier transparents!
(after reading Mitch's post below this, I added the lightfastes part to the above statement so those who read this can have all the facts together. Wicked
transparents are not true transparents, but they have found a way to make them act like it. They will work as promised.
I hope this finally clears things up for you.