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Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by Random, Dec 5, 2018 at 1:51 PM.
hi guys, check this out:
What is induction system????
And you are who ?
Sorry but with out an introduction I might have to consider this Spam being we do not know you . While this is airbrush related it is also old news like from about 5 or so years ago.
So now be a good whatever ya is (boy or girl) and hope over to the introduction section .
hi Mr. Micron, I only a beginner.
Introduction is mandatory?.
Please, where is the news like from about 5 or so years ago?.
If you consider me an spammer, no problem, I ask information for this airbrush in other sites.
Are you the administrator forum?
In this case, be free to banned me and cut my post. Dont worry!!
I´m only searching more info about this beauty!! Thank you!
Yes he is a moderator here. The reason you don't find any information is because a .07mm nozzle size is absurd. That's a mm under half of an iwata CM-SB nozzle at .18mm. And hundreds of people here who have Microns can tell you how finicky they can be already. With a .07mm nozzle the only thing you might be able to spray thru it is printer ink (that's why they probably compared it to one ). Anyways, that airbrush is impractical. It has no real world application besides saying they made it, which I doubt they actually have as that seemed like a conceptual demo video.
Oh and I am Admin or did you not read my title.
Introduction are the polite thing to do when joining a group or forum . It would of told us you are a newbie.
The video you link is 5 years old , The news about aerograph trying to make this airbrush is even older then that .
and I think they are no longer in business.
Micron airbrushes are not for newbies. mainly because you have to know what paints will and will not work well in them and how to reduce the paint to flow at different PSI. Right now the smallest nozzle airbrush made is the .15 H&S Infinity which can paint hair lines on a hair.But you really do not need a super micro nozzle to get fine detail that is where a lot of practice time come in .
But I am sure @DaveG can provide better information on if aerograph is even still in business being I have not ever found a web site for them only NOS(new old stock )
Oh I did forget one thing there is no best airbrush ever because if you ask all the pros you will find many different answers due to what one deems the best is the best for what they use it for. LMAO
True, I have almost every model variation from iwata, and I love them all for the individual tasks they are set out to do. Like my Microns for fine art painting, my TH for murals, my CH is my white brush, and so on.
Mr. Micron, thanks for your response.
I have already presented my self in the forum.
If you look, the video only has 2 days on the web, not five years. As I read in another forum, it is a gun to work with oil paints or something similar and it is capable of making lines 4 times thinner than a hair. I have several Iwata airbrushes and as much as I dilute the paint and lower the pressure, I can not make the detail of the video images. I have not seen anything like it. Do you know if there is something similar? What is the induction system ?. I think this airbrush is the best for detailing work, even more than the sotar 20/20. Thank you in advance!!!
Fine line detail only comes from a lot of practice time spent.
this video was 5 years ago on the person youtube channel which shows the nozzle sizes side by side.
4 times smaller then a hair you would have to be airbrush under a microscope to see it. induction has a lot of different meaning, But it will mean closer to the mixture of paint and air in the camber which so far I have not found anything that atomizes as fine as a Iwata Micron.
as far as fine detail this guy is using an Iwata Eclipse https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=KC1TPGQzK9Y
Mike Learn years ago made a custom mod on a couple of different airbrush he called the MOJO I-III
Steve Leahy https://stevenleahy.com/ paint razor blades and other super small things
None of them need a .07 airbrush to do the job it is all about lots of practice.
Thanks for the links, Mr. Micron, but there is a lot of detail level difference achieved.
In the other hand, if you look, they are two airbrushes and different videos, the one I tell you is much shorter and has the induction system, the other not. And he is able to write "poul" in less than a millimeter, please see how he takes and handling the airbrush!!!. I still do not understand your explanation of the induction system very well, do you mean is it a mixing paint system?. I think the 0,07 mm. head and the practice as well you said is the point to make this detail. Thanks again.
Looks like they used an olympos head....
.07 is ridiculous... Even .1's I know of were largely failures.
Several brushes can do lines so thin if they got any smaller you wouldnt be able to see them....
At a certain point it really becomes more about how easily they are controlled and how reliably they can do those lines.
The top end of brushes I can assure you are already capable of outperforming their operators when they are working at their peak.
Induction in this case is simply referring to the feed.
It's hocus pocus....almost Every airbrush could say " lateral induction system"
Pretty much just means it's not external mix.
Thank you Robbyrockett!!!! Do you know the model or reference?.
Im not sure about this...
Looked like they showed both L1 and L3 heads.
At around the same time there was an iwata micron offered with a .1 nozzle .....
Thanks , do you have more info about the .1 nozzles or .07 ones?
The .1 which is not available anymore and wasn't for long.
These are the olympos heads
Though I would guess for the .07 they just made a nozzle to use with those heads...and possibly an aircap.
Same as those .1 iwatas that were made.
WOW thank you!! I will try to make a combo with these spare parts and info!!!
Your easiest path to try a .1 would probably be to find a vintage Fischer.
Like this one.
Still no easy task.
But if the performance of these ultra small nozzles was anything even kind of worthwhile at least one of them would still be around.
@Lion-Art might be able to elaborate on what specifically killed the micron SE. He's still around and still deals in airbrushes and parts.
Dye based ink is likely about the only thing that will come out of them consistently.