Createx has inconsistent paint colors

Leakyvalve

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This is just one example.
On the left is Burnt Umber Createx Illustration
On the Right is Burnt Umber Wicked Detail.
The CI looks nothing like it's catalog counterpart which pulls from the orange-ish side. This is yellow based.
I also have 2 different bottles of Sepia Wicked detail that are completely different.


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Yeah they're different from bottle to bottle.

Most paints are, anything that's ppg or high end artist paint like golden will be too close for 99 percent of people to tell the difference but otherwise they all are.
Still ends up not meaning a whole lot since anything thats been on for a while changes it's color anyhow and needs blended or is rarely used as is out of the bottle.

Createx is particularly bad about it though. Not just color but viscosity too.
I wouldn't put too much hope on average pigment size bottle to bottle either.
 
If I had to do all my purchasing over again, I think I would go with Golden fluid paints. But since they aren't pushed in the AB community like Createx is, I went with what was popular.
I have similar problem. In my country(no shipping cost) I can get only createx and vallejo... While in germany(shipping cost 25 euros) I have much more to chose from including

Half of them I never heard of... Marketing...
 
If I had to do all my purchasing over again, I think I would go with Golden fluid paints. But since they aren't pushed in the AB community like Createx is, I went with what was popular.
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If I had to do all my purchasing over again, I think I would go with Golden fluid paints. But since they aren't pushed in the AB community like Createx is, I went with what was popular.

I like using Golden paints, however, Golden themselves recommend larger nozzle sizes for most of their colours, especially darker colours like black and umber/sepia, there is a chart somewhere on their website which details the recommended minimum nozzle size for each colour, as far as I can remember only 2 or 3 colours were deemed fine through a 0.2 nozzle, just something to consider if you're thinking about switching.

Golden make paints for every artistic discipline as well as mediums for screen printing and other specialist practices so they don't seem to concerned about plugging their airbrush suitable paints, the only thing I can remember thrm plugging was when they developed the high flow range which didn't actually replace the older fluid acrylic range since thats obviously still available and in my opinion, far easier to use.
 
I like using Golden paints, however, Golden themselves recommend larger nozzle sizes for most of their colours, especially darker colours like black and umber/sepia, there is a chart somewhere on their website which details the recommended minimum nozzle size for each colour, as far as I can remember only 2 or 3 colours were deemed fine through a 0.2 nozzle, just something to consider if you're thinking about switching.

Golden make paints for every artistic discipline as well as mediums for screen printing and other specialist practices so they don't seem to concerned about plugging their airbrush suitable paints, the only thing I can remember thrm plugging was when they developed the high flow range which didn't actually replace the older fluid acrylic range since thats obviously still available and in my opinion, far easier to use.

So far I've used pyr.red, carbon black, and tit.white golden fluids, and they performed awesome. Very powerful and flowed really well. I also have 2 little bottles of High Flow in Titan buff and some sort of brown. I don't like how thin the High Flow is. I want my companies to load them full of pigment and let me do the thinning. I have no proof, but I feel Golden would produce a more consistent product over time vs. Createx.
 
So far I've used pyr.red, carbon black, and tit.white golden fluids, and they performed awesome. Very powerful and flowed really well. I also have 2 little bottles of High Flow in Titan buff and some sort of brown. I don't like how thin the High Flow is. I want my companies to load them full of pigment and let me do the thinning. I have no proof, but I feel Golden would produce a more consistent product over time vs. Createx.
https://createxcolors.com/purepigment.html
scroll down for Mediums.
 
There's not alot of info out there about those pigments. Mainly what size pigment are they using, and compared to say a bottle of wicked the same size and color, how much more pigment is in the concentrate?
Sry, can't help with this one. I tried to get a bootle of pigments and a medium for test with my local store, actually one of two stores in my country I'm gonna kill my self lol, but the store owner sad he can't get them. I know he gets his createx stuff from createx germany, so I need another route to test it.

According to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigment
and my crapy logic, pigments would need to be in a powder state so when you buy pigments, you get a powder... If I am wrong with this one sry in advance. And I would be happy if someone corrects me. So in theory I would assume you would need quite a few mediums to use all of those pigments. Especially you guys, which are using transparent colors. More transparency more medium. At least if my theory is right.

Still need to find a place where I could buy those pigments and mediums...

edit: but with pigments you would have the same color each time. You would put on a scale for example 5g of pigments and 2dcl of medium and then you would know what to do next time when you run out of that color. Sry, can't calculate in US measurments :D
 
Sry, can't help with this one. I tried to get a bootle of pigments and a medium for test with my local store, actually one of two stores in my country I'm gonna kill my self lol, but the store owner sad he can't get them. I know he gets his createx stuff from createx germany, so I need another route to test it.


I had an EDIT to my post all typed out and it timed out.

I actually just called Createx on this. I believe I talked with one of the owners. Was a nice guy. I chickened out on asking about color variance among batches and product lines.
Anyways, he said the pure pigments are same as Wicked Detail. He said they are just water and pigment and around 10x the amount of pigment per size bottle. He mentioned that you should know abit about the chemistry if you're gonna mix your own. The retail colors have a max pigment load of around 33% pigment to binder.

So it don't seem like a bad idea if you wanted to mix up your own paints. You just need a GOOD binder that behaves like you want it to as a base. I don't know how much cheaper you can get a quality binder you trust.
So I just looked up 4004 base at Coast... i'ts $38 for 32oz -----------For Wicked detail black... it's $26.75 for 32oz
So are you saving money.. I don't know.
 
I had an EDIT to my post all typed out and it timed out.

I actually just called Createx on this. I believe I talked with one of the owners. Was a nice guy. I chickened out on asking about color variance among batches and product lines.
To bad. We were wondering about that for quite some time. But at least you admit it! :D
I had an EDIT to my post all typed out and it timed out.



So it don't seem like a bad idea if you wanted to mix up your own paints. You just need a GOOD binder that behaves like you want it to as a base.

Those mediums are binders which you need.Scroll down and you will find them and prices for them:
https://dixieart.com/Createx_Pure_Pigments.html
 
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