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alvin

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Hi guys I don't know what just happend but when I was try to take out the needle I had to use a lot of power and and top of needle is destroyded :( There is other problem, I was cleaning up nozzle and the top of it has broken. I just screamed WTF god do you see this?! I have to buy new parts to my airbrush but at now I don't have money for it.
God damm it!
 
Sounds like there was dried paint in there gluing the needle in. Happens to mine too. Especially my Eclipse.
 
Either that you up bent the very tip of the needle and cracked the nozzle when you pulled it out.
The dried paint is usually around the needle bearing.
I feel for you on needing part and no money for them .
 
That's tough about your airbrush. The important thing is, what have you learned from this so it doesn't happen again?

Don
 
Mr.Micron said:
Either that you up bent the very tip of the needle and cracked the nozzle when you pulled it out.
The dried paint is usually around the needle bearing.
I feel for you on needing part and no money for them .
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Where is the needle bearing? And how do I make sure I don't have paint on mine?
 
Tat2missyj said:
Where is the needle bearing? And how do I make sure I don't have paint on mine?
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In a gravity feed it sits just behind the cup. I know on the iwata eclipse there is a small hole the needle comes out of into the cup, but the bearing sirs back in a few mm, which can allow paint to build up and dry if is sits too long. Other brushes , gravity feeds , will be similar. A siphon is roughly in the same area of the body, but you can not access it to clean that area without removing the packing screw.

The packing screw is accessed by removing the handle, needle, trigger, needle tube and spring. Look into the end, toward the cup, and you should see the screw.

I generally now let some cleaner sit in my cup for 15 min or so, above the level of the needle, to soak it and hopefully loosen up any paint. I suppose one way to eliminate it would be to pull the needle and lube it every time you put your brushes away so the paint cant stick to it.


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Needle bearing = Needle seal = Packing screw. As Wayne noted, it's between the paint chamber and trigger area. There are a couple sketches half way down this page of two typical types. With a gravity fed airbrush, you can usually clean out the area in front of it by pulling the needle and using an interdental brush or pipe cleaner from inside the bowl. Flushing alone may not keep it clean. With a siphon airbrush, you can usually get to it by removing the nozzle and using a pipe cleaner. You may not need to do this every cleaning, but I would at least remove the needle and wipe it each time.

Don
 
wmlepage said:
In a gravity feed it sits just behind the cup. I know on the iwata eclipse there is a small hole the needle comes out of into the cup, but the bearing sirs back in a few mm, which can allow paint to build up and dry if is sits too long. Other brushes , gravity feeds , will be similar. A siphon is roughly in the same area of the body, but you can not access it to clean that area without removing the packing screw.

The packing screw is accessed by removing the handle, needle, trigger, needle tube and spring. Look into the end, toward the cup, and you should see the screw.

I generally now let some cleaner sit in my cup for 15 min or so, above the level of the needle, to soak it and hopefully loosen up any paint. I suppose one way to eliminate it would be to pull the needle and lube it every time you put your brushes away so the paint cant stick to it.


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That is exactly what I do run cleaner through, then water through. Remove the needle and look for any paint residue, if there is some I run more cleaner and water. Then a lube the needle and put it back in.
 
As they said excrement happens. But what I have did wrong? I always after using airbrush clean it with water and spray every water out. There should'nt be any paint inside ;/
 
alvin said:
As they said excrement happens. But what I have did wrong? I always after using airbrush clean it with water and spray every water out. There should'nt be any paint inside ;/
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I don't know how often you spray it through with water but if you only do it after painting and you spend a couple of hours painting it might be to late. My indication to clean is when the paint starts to dry up in the cup. This dry paint might get loose and clog up the nozzle. How bad this is depends on the paint it seems, I had a lot of trouble with schmicnke (as this seems to become almost glas like) and the original createx (becomes rubbery).

I don't say this will happen all the time but it might happen and when it does you'll spend a lot of time getting it cleaned up again. I used to have a lot of problems with clogged up nozzles but ever since I got into the habbit to spray water through every 5-10 minutes or so I have hardly had any problems. Before I put the brush away I spray it through with cleaner once and once more with water to get any cleaner left out, put some lube on the needle and the next time I pick the brush up its ready for action.

If you keep your airbrush clean like this there is also no need to clean your nozzle (haven't had the ones in my Microns out in for over a year now) and you don't need to take your airbrush appart everytime (with the chance of damaging sommething)
 
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Hi Alvin. I think your main mistake was to force the needle. Since you damaged the nozzle, I suspect the tip of the needle might have been bent. If the needle doesn't pull easily, check the tip. If it is bent too much to pass through the nozzle, straighten it or clip it off. Needles are usually cheaper than nozzles. Remove the nozzle. Then see if you can push the needle forward with a little pressure. If it is still stuck, put some cleaner or lacquer thinner in the front part of the airbrush and let it soak a few minutes. If you have been spraying acrylics, very hot water might help. Try to push the needle out the front so you won't damage the needle seal.

If you flush well, wipe the needle and apply a drop of needle lube each time you clean, I don't think you will have sticking problems. I always swab out that little space in front of the seal. It only takes a second to do.

Don
 
i agree with don some times i get a mystery bent needle it happens but not allot, you would know if dried paint on the needle was a problem if you pulled oot the needle and it was dirty . If the tip of the needle was bent and you force pulled it out from behind it would have damaged the nozzle on the way out. i have since learned to always never force anything on an air brush and only remove my needles from the front although i don't recommend doing that with the renegades i try never to remove the renegade nozzles unless i have to . there to easy to loose and the slightest scratch or dent where the nozzle sits on the air brush body can cause a bad seal . when I am cleaning my velocity or krome i like to loosen the needle chuck and slide the needle in and out and make sure some soapy water gets to the needle bearing area thain of cource the needle needs to be lubricated again ever since i have been doing this i haven't had a problem . also on a funny note i also use etac efx allot and one good thing is it is rewetable making clean up super easy
 
I had a little spec of paint dry in my velocity once after I had used it a few times and had the same issue(needle didn't want to move easily) but, since then I have learned to clean my brushes thoroughly...at the end of a painting session I completely strip down my brushes and flush the body and never had an issue since. Also I remove my needles from the front because it 1)prevents paint from being pulled back into the body further and 2) prevents from bending the tip. Some might say I clean too much but the way I see it is if it is removing problems due to improper cleaning the the only malfunction that is left is me! lol I own 2 Velocitys and no cleaning/care issues.
 
There "shouldn't" be paint left, and it may "look" clean, but it can still be in there. I clean my brush until I think it's spotless - then I do it again just to make sure. A light coat of lube on the needle will keep it moving freely for next time.
 
I've gotten into the habit of cleaning my brush and needle between each color and then again at the end of my paint session. If I'm painting and the brush decides acts up (not sound right or the paint doesn't seem to flow right), I dump the paint and clean. When I clean it, I use water to rinse out most of the paint, then I use cleaner to clean out the cup, pull the needle and clean it with cleaner and then rinse with water several times. When done, I always lube the needle with the smallest amount of needle lube (wipe it off with a paper towel) and then I'm ready to paint again. Lots of rinsing and cleaning is the way to go. Never leave your brush with paint in it. When I am not using a brush, I always put the needle caps on and my micron came with a protective rubber tip that I always put on too. This way if, god forbid, the brush gets knocked down, I've done everything to protect the tip from damage. Of course, I am using Wicked or waterbased paint.

I'm sorry this happened to you. When you buy replacement parts, make sure you get some needle lube too.
 
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