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Discussion in 'Airbrushes' started by Electric Cat Dude, May 30, 2021.
Iwata has had a 1/2oz. siphon feed side cup for years (pictured below). This is the first time they will be incorporating it with the Micron as a standard option (there was an Eclipse version that came with it, aimed at automotive work).
It does look like the new version if based on the removable H&S color cups from the Infinity line (could also be the same cups made for the NEO, which come in two sizes) , with a screw off base - which also has the feed tube attached to it. One base will take 3 different size cups.
The cup used on the Procon Boy is the same cup that has been used on the Olympos brushes, (as well as a few other Japanese brands including the NEO TRN2) for decades.
What I have read is that both the Micron and Eclipse bodies are 7mm shorter trigger to tip on these new models. I am more interested in the Eclipse at this point, than the Micron. I also don't think there will be any real big gains in performance on either model.
I have no idea why you would need a color cut that size for an airbrush which has a 0.18 mm nozzle board and it’s really designed for hairlines and other kinds of fine detail. If you need to consume that much paint and have it on hand in the air brush, a micron would probably not be your choice for that.
It looks like an H&S cub.
The description says it is 2 parts.
I think you can unscrew the top part.
(There is a line just above the airbrush)
leaving a small cub.
But if you can't remove the cub without cleaning it first.
Is it more disadvantages than advantages?
This size is just a little bit not for the Micron, I'd say
These are words of wisdom.
Besides amount of paint required for detail work, the size of the cup also matters for the convenience of detail work, especially if the AB body has been shortened. Big cup that they are going to sell the AB with is not that something many people expect from detail work tool.
Which one would you use for the detail work?
I use the first two.
These cups are from Olympos and Iwata that were manufactured previously. Two types of connection from Olympos and one from Iwata. It seems, they use the same connection on Procon Boy now as Olympos did. But Iwata's connection is much better to use and to clean after work.
Feel the difference between the cups on the ABs:
I like 7 ml cup on 101 model of Olympos. It's very convenient side feed brush and for most works it's been used, the volume of the cup is just great.
It is definitely H&S cups.
No idea why it uploaded upside down.
The cups from the NEO are nearly indistinguishable from those of the H&S, having the same threads, and nearly identical volume(s). 6 one, half dozen another (also the Sparmax SP20X - interestingly, all owned by Iwata). I use the finishing ring from H&S on one of my NEO's, effectively making it an "A" cup... I also use one of the NEO's cups on a Grex that I have, as they too have the same threads.
Two NEO cups and an H&S finishing ring -
I have a ‘spare’ High performance A brush, can I put a micron head (and needle obviously) on it and have an A cup micron ?
Nope. The HP's don't feature a removable head. You can however still order MP200-A's from Japan . I convert mine to other than Olympos parts, and they are great little brushes. This is one I am working on now-
HP-A's work pretty well in stock form. There are a couple of little tweaks that do offer subtle performance gains, but I am not real sure the average person would pick up on the differences - so, cost is subjective. I have them in several configurations -
Thanks Dave, it was just something that popped into my head
I enjoy my A cup, sometime a couple of drops is all I need
they are pretty I just know this new hobby is going to cost Me a fortune!!
And we’re here to help you - we’ve been known to ‘enable’ people with their spending
Not always. You can get away with cheaper models that will last you a lifetime. The only real expense is paint and paper and paint lasts a very long time.