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Fabriano Artistico paper?

Discussion in 'Substrates' started by huskystafford, Aug 23, 2020.


  1. huskystafford

    huskystafford Needle chucking Ninja Staff Member Admin Very Likeable!

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    Anybody has experience with this paper?

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    Artistico Traditional White

    Fabriano Artistico watercolour paper is mould made, produced whit 100% cotton, chlorine and acid free, guaranteeing long conservation and inalterability over time. The paper is sized both internally and externally, making it ideally absorbent and retaining its nature unaltered even if scratched. Traditional white, whitout optical bleaching.
    Two deckle edgeg and watermarked "FABRIANO+ARTISTICO" on the short side. Short grain. The high quality and ample offer of this paper satisfied the requirements of all professional artists and the most demanding amateurs.
    Ideal for watercolour, tempera, gouche, acrylic, link, charcoal, graphite and drawing. It is also suitable for printmaking.

    https://fabriano.com/en/22/artistico_traditional_white

    They have bunch of different papers, but that you can check on that link. I was just wondering about this paper cause they have cold pressed, hot pressed and rough paper.

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    and also this was interesting to me: and retaining its nature unaltered even if scratched.
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    I have a bunch of the hot pressed. I use it mostly for colored pencil drawing (layers well, and allows blending readily with solvents). It is a watercolor paper, and responds just as you would expect a watercolor paper to respond - it is very thirsty. Acrylics and Airbrush specific colors look very dull, or flat when applied. Being cotton, if you scratch the surface, it fill fuzz up noticeably when wetted.
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    thanks for the info DaveG. I know people use Yupo and Schoellershammer 4g and I was wondering if there are alternatives.
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    I have never heard of that paper until I read this thread. For airbrushing I don't think it would be the best, as Dave said the paints we use look dull but that doesn't mean you cant use them, you would have to experiment and adjust how you paint. It would probably perform similar to tshirt material being absorbent.
    I have loads of different paper I've accumulated over the decades, I'm a bit of a stationary hoarder, S.A.D. (Stationary Acquisition Disorder)

    I've been watching Steve Leahy (on monday evenings on FB) 11pm UK time, who used some Canson Colorline Paper on his last painting of a Ducati, He can do light scratching and erasing on it so I got a small pack to see how it performs, I could not get the Colourline ( it may be USA ) so I got Canson Iris Vivaldi paper. Tim said it would be fine for airbrush. Great for when I eventually pick up my airbrush that is. He was airbrushing with Indian Inks from Timothy John Luke Smith and doing the bike pic with them to show how good they were.

    How much does this paper cost then Husky? The Canson was £14 for 50 185 gsm A3 sheets, it was £12 for the A4 so was a no brainer that I got 2x the paper for the extra £2 If I need A4 I cut a sheet in half.

    Lee
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    Fabriano Artistico Traditional White 75x106cm, 640g/m2
    14,60 €

    Papir Fabriano Artistico Traditional White 56x76cm, 640g/m2
    10,03 €


    This is per one sheet. Keep in mind I stumbled on this paper by accident. SO I am guessing price wise it can be cheaper if I would search around. Not cheap as your 50 pieces of a3 though :lipssealed:
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    I remember using Fabriano paper but I dont know what type I was given to test if it would work for airbrush art I do remember is did cost more than schoellershammer 4G and it was oke but not that good but not that good that I bothered to ask what paper it was nor did I buy more
    You could check out Schoellershammer #4 airbrush paper it comes in 20 50x70 cm sheets I payed 55 euro for it and that is about to the same price I used to pay for Schoellershammer 4G
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    As I have been dabbling in watercolour I will say that it is made to absorb large amounts of fluid, will certainly dull the colour as mentioned, and is meant to allow the paint to bleed and spread out. I would say hot press would be the best bet as its less "bleedy" and without large amounts of water might stand a bit of detail, but not sure how sharp it would be. Personally I would say not ideal for AB, but depends on the effect you are going for.
    You may be able to contact a supplier and ask for some samples. You will likely get some small squares, or off cuts which should be big enough to do some tests on.
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    Thansk Ronald for your input. I can get locally schoellershammer, but the weird part is I can't find any numbers like schoellershammer number 4. In all the stores they sell schoellershammer just as schoellershammer... Locally would be great, cause I would save money for shipping and I could pick just few papers if needed. Maybe not a bad idea if I make few telephone calls to those local stores and ask them for number 4. I know they have Yupo paper though.
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    thanks Squishy for your input. I don't have a clue about papers, so I am in a search for something I can use. I did read paper comparison from @AndreZA, great comparison. But I have wicked so I am guessing this will be another issue with erasing.
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    if you can get this paper locally go for it just make sure it is "g" or smooth and not the "R" that paper is not smooth the number is not that important when in doubt get 1 sheet and test it and I would only buy yupo if I would use a paint made for synthetic paper
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    sorry for dumb question, but is wicked made for synthetic paper?
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    good info :thumbsup:
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    you need to ask the createx users I dont use it
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    Any wicked user spraying on paper here maybe? :)
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    I found it! @Kim McCann posted his work with wicked on Yupo. :)
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    I have used it on paper but I don't really have any other experience to compare it to, I use it primarily on metal. It certainly stuck to paper Ok but that's about all I can say.....
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    Watercolour paper will soak the paint deep into the fibres, so it won't erase. You need a paper the paint will lay on top of for that.
    I know wicked is not the best at erasing, however it's my fave, and I've found it erases great if you do it quickly. If you have a large area, I would paint a little, erase that area, paint a little more etc and erase as I go.
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    I have used Wicked on lana vanguard paper, which is synthetic.

    You have to treat it as a hard surface such as metal, lower your pressure and adjust your reduction a bit or it will skate all over the place. And don't keep your brush in one place as it will blow holes in the paint down to the paper surfsce (don't know how else to describe lol)
    But yes with adjustments Wicked works well on it. It is a bit delicate and can wipe off before paint has cured quite easily so make sure you use the proper reducer as it gives it a harder cure.
    It erases too easily, so if you want texture or lighter erased areas, let the paint cure and use a softer eraser, again an adjustment, but do able. Colours pop as its a very white paper, and as paint sits on the top it retains it's full brightness.

    My fave surface (other than vehicles) for wicked is ampersand claybord. Its wonderful stuff. Great for erasing, and paint lays down lovely on it.

    As for more regular paper I have used schoellershammer airbrush paper. Again as it's wicked, if you want to erase the sooner the better.
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    thanks for the tips. This will be very use full. :thumbsup:
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    I use FABRIANO® Tecnico 6
    That is not that expensive.
    It is resistant to soft erasers. Frisk film / 3m gold tape.
    For synthetic paper I use lana vanguard paper.
    It's more expensive , but if I screw up I can take it off with some glass cleaner. And start over.
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