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Frisk Bristol board

Discussion in 'Beginners help' started by Ian58, Sep 28, 2021.


  1. Ian58

    Ian58 Young Tutorling

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    Hi all, 1st of all I'd like to introduce myself, I'm a total newbie, Ian's my name, and am at present totally confused, frustrated, and walking in circles muttering obscenities at myself.
    I'm wanting to try for as much near photo realism, people, animals, grandkids ( they come under both titles ! )
    Anyhow, I've just bought some Frisk Bristol board, on lots of recommendations and got all set to have a go with some erasing, scratching technique.
    Nope!! It's not having any of it ??? I'm using createx illustration paints, just like I've seen Dru Blair and his students, but " NOPE SIREEE" nothing whatsoever.
    Should I be prepping the paper in some way, or should I be doing something with the paint ? Help please,
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    Mike115 Mac-Valve Maestro! Very Likeable!

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    I can't help but don't worry, they'll be plenty of helpful experts along soon enough, welcome though :)

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    I had a quick look at that board and it appears to be made off paper and there is your problem : createx illustration paints cant be erased on regular paper it is ment to be used on synthetic "paper"
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  4. Ian58

    Ian58 Young Tutorling

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    Hi Mike,
    Thanks for getting back ( so quickly) many thanks. I'm sure someone will point me in the right direction. Cheers
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    You can erase and scratch on plain printer paper if you apply the paint correctly. Usually the first problem is people thin the paint too much and the paper/board absorbs the paint. Secondly, tying in with the first, is they put on on too wet or too thick.
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    Ian58 Young Tutorling

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    Hi Ronald,
    Cheers for replying, I thought Bristol board was a form of synthetic, but I was misled, turs out its more of a hot pressed watercolour paper,
    I'm trying to find a supplier of Dru Blair synthetic here in UK, but no luck so far.
    I do have valeho paints, and another make, ? I'll have a go with them.
    Thanks anyway, and hi.
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    Ian58 Young Tutorling

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    Hi AndreZA,
    Thanks for responding, just prior to trying , I watched a snippet of Deu Blair, doing a little erasing, I did make a mental note of how light the paint went on, and tried to get as close as I could, I tried, dusting, thicker, a little bit thicker, nope, didn't go how his did, totally frying my brain this one,
    Thanks for your advice, very much appreciated
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    Ian58 Young Tutorling

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    By the way, I did recently have a go on some glossy photo paper, and the effect was as close to where I'm wanting to go as anything else so far, cheers
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    AndreZA Love this place! Forum Supporter Very Likeable!

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    You will not get results anything close to what Dru gets if you are not using his paper. The closest you will get is Yupo and Lanavanguard (Yupo).
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    erwin de pan Mac-Valve Maestro! Very Likeable!

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    My preference is Lanavanguard
    That has a slightly better adhesion than yupo.
    Lanavanguard makes several types of paper.
    The 100% high tec is what I use.
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    Andre is correct when he says that the photo paper won’t provide as good results as the Blair paper. However…. I’ve found the photo paper great to practice on and it’s easy to get hold of.
    Yupo for me is too smooth but have found that a quick light rub with some 0000 steel wool (hardware shop) gives it a bit more tooth. I hear good things about Lana Vanguard ‘paper’ but I can’t get it here in Australia.
    Be careful with scratching , I prefer the term ‘stroking’. ‘Scratching’ infers force is required, however if the paint is laid down lightly you only need to stroke the blade over the surface.
    If you have the funds I highly recommend Dru’s classroom in a box series. You can get them without the paint if you already have the colours needed.
    I bought the eye, hair, skull kits and have the colour theory kit waiting to go.
    You will get a good insight with the eye and hair kits, well worth it.

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