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Discussion in 'Introductions!' started by mnmnmnmnm, May 19, 2018.


  1. Robbyrockett2

    Robbyrockett2 Air-Valve Autobot!

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    Extra would have have been the extra $30 a letter for a W ,two A's, a T ,and an I on the side. Hehehe:eek:

    (referring to the 270 of course not the chinese special)
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  2. JackEb

    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

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    lol, i keep forgetting you're not an Iwata hoarder :)


    @mnmnmnmnm, here's "my" shopping list recommendations from Foxy, there prices are comparable to most around.



    Eclipse CS 119.85
    Eclipse CS spare needle 9.09
    Eclipse CS spare nozzle 23.97
    Iwata Moisture trap for airbrush 22.31
    iwata cobra hose 21.49
    H&S Quick conect with MAC 15.7
    Iwata Male connect
    Iwata Clean out pot 22.27

    I couldnt find the male connector for the quick connect, but if you email them they will let you know which one you need for the Iwata >H&S quickfix. Its a standard fitting and generally less that 6 eur

    I also recommend their new airbrush holder: 23.88 Euro. it holds the brush nicely firm with very little risk of it falling out if the air line is tugged at all (or tripped over lol ) it also fits onto the spray out pot so you can have it all secured in one spot.

    when you go to the supermarket/drugstore or where ever it is you buy your toothpaste, look for 'interdental brushes' they look like miniature bottle brushes and are great for cleaning the smaller parts of the airbrush. unlike the 'mini cleaning brushes' that many airbrush outlets supply , the interdentals dont have the metal core which will easily scratch the inside of your brush.

    so you now have your compressor, and a shopping list, the only other thing missing is the adaptor for the airline to the compressor. . Just take the airline to the hardware shop and ask for an adapter to fit the compressor. The manual will tell you what the outlet is (BSP/NSP etc)

    all you need now is some paint, time, patience and you'll be posting your work in no time flat.
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  3. Robbyrockett2

    Robbyrockett2 Air-Valve Autobot!

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    Eh , GSI is all just minor variations of the same stuff so...

    Anyway, the cevik compressor has female euro quick connects so no thread worries just a euro qc, male/male.
    Til he gets the water trap anyhow.
  4. JackEb

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    If like you say, water isn’t likely to be a big concern then the pistol grip one near the airbrush will help until the decision is made wether it’s worth the expense of a ‘proper’ one
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    Robbyrockett2 Air-Valve Autobot!

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    True, but I'm guessing you didnt see the price of the inline trap, it's like $5
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    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

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    Yes and the one you linked is designed to be at the spraygun end. The water release pin needs to be vertical to the floor :p
  7. Franc Kaiser

    Franc Kaiser Mac-Valve Maestro! Very Likeable!

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    Hi mnnmnmnm and welcome to the forum!
    A few months ago I started out with airbrushing myself, to do paintings, and faced all of your questions and confusion as well. There are so many options and combinations thereof that it really requires some orientation and discussion to figure out what to purchase.

    I agree with the other folks here that the USD 570 package is a total rip-off, and that the compressor is not going to make you happy.
    In my first days trying out airbrushing, I realized the importance of a good compressor - and that a good compressor needs to have a tank. I bought a cheap small compressor (with tank, for less than USD 100) and couldn't be happier. See details in my post http://www.airbrushforum.org/threads/hfeng-af-186-is-this-compressor-any-good.20133/#post-310114

    What I could not quite understand is the whole issue about noisy or noiseless compressors... I am not bothered by the sound at all, and I use it whilst my kids are sleeping next door (they never wake up). I realized that the sound is not much more than an aircon, and it is not a disturbing or "loud" sound at all.

    I can recommend to use acrylics, at least as an easy starting point. I chose to use Golden High-Flow... I normally use it right from the bottle, mostly without adding water or other medium to it, and it works quite well. The frustrations you will later experience with acrylics is the whole issue about 'tip dry'... but that's how acrylics is, and it takes a bit time to get used to it.
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  8. mnmnmnmnm

    mnmnmnmnm Young Tutorling

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    Not sure if I can afford all this right now. But should I get a water trap to the airbrush as well? I thought I was going to get it for the compressor?
    And the nozzle, is that a part that usually breaks?

    My budget now after the compressor is around 340$ and that includes the paint :D
    Like these:
    iwata cobra hose 21.49
    H&S Quick conect with MAC 15.7
    Iwata Male connect

    Are these three separate items? Plus the extra connections I need to fix at the local hardware stores? Since I havent seen this IRL, all I see in front of me is like hundreds of spare parts that goes in every directions. I dont understand at all right now. Rob linked a water trap yesterday that was super cheap in comparison to this?

    Sorry for no logic in my writing, im tired and in a rush. My head is a big mess right now, I think it might get easier when I have everything in front of me. Its so many details and general knowledge that I simply dont have :oops:
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    I use Golden High-Flow, but I recently experimented with inks as my wife had some old bottles of black ink (for Chinese calligraphy) laying around. I think that ink works quite well for "drawing" and sketching detailed elements on a painting. However, I used it to prime larger areas in the background, and it created quite a mess in the rest of my small study room. The ink gets atomized much more strongly than acrylics, so a lot of it evaporates into the air and lands anywhere else than on the painting. I realized this only the next day, as all white surfaces in my study had a light dust layer - of ink - on it. Furthermore, that stuff really gets into your respiratory system when used extensively. I decided to use ink only for details, but never for larger areas anymore.
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  10. Malky

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    I'm not surprised you're tired my friend, you've been bombarded with so much information from so many different points of view and preferences and it's just too much to take take in, take a little step back and relax.

    If you are buying a new airbrush you don't need spare parts right now, spares are handy to have on hand because accidents can a do happen but you can get these layer when you're up and running and in a better position to do so.

    I'm reading about the spray out pot as of it was a life saving necessity but it isn't, you can easily find an old hair gel pot or even a glass jam pot (any flavour) and make a couple of holes on the lid, one to spray into and one for exhaust, then simply hold an old rag or cloth over it when you spray into it, now you have a spray out pot totally free of charge and don't have fork out the rediculous price iwata charges for a oiece of plastic which in the end has no effect on what you're hairbrush can do, unless of course you stab the stab of the pot with your needle:eek:

    There are also far cheaper options for your hoses and other parts than sticking to iwata or H&S parts, also the MAC in your case isn't a necessity based on the size of your projects, I doubt you would need to work under 15 to 20 psi.

    As I said once you ordered your compressor I would help you with the rest, so I am going to dig out my big computer because I can see it better than my phone, I will use Robbie and Jamie's advice along with my own to get where you can get paint coming out of a nozzle for way under the the money you have leftover after you bought the compressor, how does that sound:)

    Then when we get you up and running you can buy all your spares and the less important items at your leisure, does this sound like a good plan?
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    All you really need is a hose, airbrush and compressor and fittings if required.
    Beginners regularly bend needles or damage nozzles, so waiting for those items could cost you in lost revenue if your working on a commissioned pieces as well as the extra freight costs.
    Get some smallbottles of primary colours of your chosen paint and and reducer/flow medium they recommend. Then all you need is your panel to paint on.
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    LOL, snap Malky.
    In our defense, the OP was the one that bought up the spray out pot :)
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    It doesnt know where its plumbed in, or if its tilted to 45 deg
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    Malky Pencil Pushing Protagonist Very Likeable!

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    lol just like meo_O:)
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    Robbyrockett2 Air-Valve Autobot!

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    LOL, you coulda had a v8
    (hopefully that commercial is international or thats not gonna make a lick of sense)
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    @mnmnmnmnm

    So here is what I've found so far

    This is your quick release bayonet which will plug in to your compressor, it has a 1/4" female thread.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dapetz-Release-Compressed-AirLine-Coupler/dp/B018WG1O2Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527076456&sr=8-1&keywords=male euro airline fittings

    This adaptor will convert your QD bayonet to 1/8th for your airbrush hose.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Female-Thread-Bushing-Fittings-Adapter/dp/B00E1IVF2E/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1527076561&sr=1-1&keywords=1/4 female to 1/8 male fitting

    I found this amazing hose with the inline moisture trap built in to it, just screw this on to your adaptor and your QD and you're good to go
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/KKmoon-Professional-Braided-Airbrush-Standard/dp/B07C9819CK/ref=sr_1_61_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1527076040&sr=8-61-spons&keywords=airbrush hose&psc=1

    And this reasonably priced quick release set for on your hose and airbrush.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fittings-Airbrush-Disconnect-Coupling-Connecter/dp/B01JCPMCTA/ref=sr_1_7?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1527076878&sr=1-7&keywords=airbrush quick release set

    This lot would get you going for under €21, the cheapest I can find your Iwata eclipse CS is at Foxy studios @€145, so a total of €166 leaving you €174 for paints.



    P.S. I have a small Orazio compressor with 9 litre tank for which I paid 97 pounds (about €110) it is very quiet and works just fine, it's just smaller than the one featured here but they seem to be better priced than the Cevik with more or less the same specs.
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    @Malky don't you want to move to South Africa??:p:p:thumbsup: we can do with help this side too lol!!!
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    Well here is my little Orazio thingy

    comp 3.jpg
    Just smaller than the one that featured earlier in this thread.

    When it arrived it came in "all or nothing " mode, meaning there was no way of regulating pressure, so I first installed a basic regulator without moisture trap and added the euro quick release socket as you can see here, this allows me to use it for tools requiring a standard 1/4" connection;
    comp 1.jpg

    And here I have another regulator with moisture trap which simply plugs in to the QD socket so its ready for airbrush use in jig time;
    comp 2.jpg

    The second regulator has the 1/4" male to 1/8" male to receive the airbrush hose, its obviously the same one as in the photo I posted earlier.

    This compressor only weighs 14 kilograms, but because of my back problems I still cant move it, it will eventually sit under a table and will have a hose between the two regulators with the second one clamped to the table, if it ever needs to be moved I can wait for one of my sons to do that.
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