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Iwata Eclipse HP CS nozzle design better?

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    Hello all,

    I'm now shopping around to get an Iwata Eclipse HP CS as a new brush over my old HP-C ( from 1992 ) since the latter's nozzle broke off. I'm now hearing that it has a self centering nozzle and the threads cannot be broken off.

    Does this mean this model's industrial design improves on certain things from the HP-C? That's what it sounds like to me. Once I get the new airbrush, I plan to fix the old HP-C and replace its tiny nozzle. From there, I'll have two working brushes to work with.

    It also has Telfon O-Rings from a review I read. I don't believe the original HP-C had that? Otherwise, the HP-CS Eclipse should handle any Wicked paint set from Createx.

    Thanks!
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    Seems to me that Iwata introduced the Eclipse back in the day to compete with the then favored Paasche VL in the T-shirt painting circles. Introducing a similar nozzle design made the brush appear more familiar to those in the industry, at that time...

    Is it a better design? I am sure that will be argued to infinitum. People have a tendency to get a wrench around the hold down/head base and really crank that sucker down trying to get a good seal between nozzle and body. All this does is distort the brass cone (damaging the nozzle). I see it as a six one, half dozen another scenario ;).

    That being said, the Eclipse is a great, durable brush, that has tons of versatility. Both it, and the HP-C are brushes that can service someone for a lifetime, and beyond with proper care.
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    DaveG,

    Thanks! Actually I just ordered the Eclipse HP CS anyway since it was at a reasonable price on Amazon with free shipping. I figured it's a nice replacement and first modern airbrush I've had since 1992. The HP-C is still here with me but I plan to restore it on the sidelines since the tiny, tiny fluid nozzle broke off and I have to replace it while very carefully putting the new one in. By then, I'll have both functional airbrushes at my arsenal :).

    But I'm sure the HP CS will be as long lasting as the HP-C. It's just a matter of taking good care of them.
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    To get the threads out of the body of the HP-C, try using a tooth-pick and back out the threads. If that fails use a #11 x-acto blade, very gently I have had 100% success in getting the threads out of the brush with both methods. Just be super careful not to damage the internal threads of the airbrush.
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    Thanks for the tip! I actually have an Xacto knife, albeit quite old with a dulled blade. I also have toothpicks so that's probably a safer bet. I'll try that once I get the replacement fluid nozzle for the HP-C.
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    And by the way, the Eclipse HP-CS arrives tomorrow via UPS which is quite fast. I'll test it out when I get it to make sure it's working properly. I suspect the Createx Wicked paint I have will flow better on this one from thin to thick lines.
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    Update: The airbrush arrived and it worked like a charm. And it pulled off some nice thin wispy lines and too thick. Feels like the first time I got my HP-C in the early 1990s. This Eclipse is fantastic! Now I'll have to order more Reducers, Cleaners, etc.
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    Make sure you get the ‘restorer’ ! Brilliant stuff, just remember to rinse it all out when your done or you risk getting funky paint when you spray. I have a tiny container that I keep restorer in, occasionally chuck nozzles / heads in it to soak. I’m still haven’t emptied the original 4oz bottle I bought in 2012 !
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    Actually I did order the restorer along with the cleaner and reducer. I didn’t realize you can soak the parts in the restorer liquid or a bowl of it. Should’ve had that initially. At the moment, the needle is out of the airbrush because I didn’t want any residue gumming up on it and keep it dry.
    The 4 oz bottles should ship next week due to the holiday. Little by little, I’m rebuilding my airbrush gear and paint.
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    As long as you keep any seals out of the restorer then all will be fine.
    You can use a small glass airbrush jars (Without the adaptor lid)
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