Micron CM-B

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Ranger370

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I have asked this question on the other AB forum but thought I would repeat it here. Does the CM-B have a paint cup cover or is it open all the time? I really like the idea of having the .18 needle and nozzle but as sloppy as I am I would spill paint everywhere without a cup cover. I believe the CM-C has a .23 needle set up and at my skill level it probably wouldn't make that much difference in the finished work. I have looked at every detail brush I can find and compared parts cost but I have Micron fever and only an Iwata will quench it.:02.47-tranquillity:
 
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What you using at the moment ranger???... obviously I don't know your situation but why not try something likea krome for time being until you can really get the best out of a micron.... they area beautiful tool but f me they are alt of money.....a krome is maybe 85% of the brush but only 20% of the price??? Just my 2 cents worth.... (or 500 bucks worth)
 
Fez, I found a double secret ninja deal on a new Micron for $380.00. It's hard to pass up. Right now I use mostly an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS with a .30 needle setup.
 
What's that about 230 quid that is double ninja!!! Well the eclipse is also meant to be a great brush.... and I understand you want a detail brush. ... least I suppose once you have it... you have it abs it will last you a lifetime.... ah fudge it.... go for it hehe. ... just remember its not a magic wand..... practice makes perfect
 
At least you are far enough down the road to understand reduction and things like that.problems that havinga pro brush you should be able to hey around with the experience you have ... so it's by no means all the gear and no idea. ...
 
ad fez said:
What you using at the moment ranger???... obviously I don't know your situation but why not try something likea krome for time being until you can really get the best out of a micron.... they area beautiful tool but f me they are alt of money.....a krome is maybe 85% of the brush but only 20% of the price??? Just my 2 cents worth.... (or 500 bucks worth)
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I'd agree with Fezzle on this one. I have tried to justify a Micron for a while now and haven't been able to do it.
I get pretty similar detail out of my Infinity .15, Krome .21, and HP-CH .3, the Infinity does edge out the others though. The longer needle tip has a shallower angle cone on the spray pattern.
I can't say I won't buy a Micron eventually, but I'd like to try one compared to my Infinity prior to dishing out that kind of loot.
As fez said though, I would recommend a Krome to about anyone, beginner or advanced.
 
The micron is really different from the eclipse. It will take a while to controll it. For some time you won't be able to get even the detail you got out of your eclipse.

But still its a micron! And thats cool.
Other option is raising your trigger on the eclipse. But still i think you want the micron and wont settle for less, so be prepared to learn it.
 
Melbee said:
Don't forget Import Tax on top of that. I got my Olympos MP200-C from Japan for a great price but had to pay €81 Import Tax and handling fees when it arrived in the post.
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By the time import tax and handling fees are added sometimes its just as cheap to buy locally! I found that by the time the UK gov and the royal mail got their cut it just wasn't worth the hassle and the wait.
 
The CM-B does not come with a paint cup cap. But, the shape of the cup and the surface tension of the paint mean you will spill a lot less than you think you would. Shy of holding the airbrush up-side down, the paint stays in the cup pretty well. Either way, I definitely wouldn't let something as easily remedied as that keep you from getting a micron. The only people I've seen to say they can't justify a micron, or other airbrushes work almost as well, etc, etc tend to be people who've never used a micron, or used one and just don't have the talent for it to make any difference. I could understand the skepticism if the micron where a brand-new, unproven design, but they'd been THE benchmark for 30+ years. Hype just doesn't stand up that long, so you can be pretty sure there's a reason it's still the "it" brush.
 
Maybe so buddy.... and I would be the first to admit that i hadn't used one nor do I have the talent to properly do so.... which was the only reason i said ranger (seeing as though he's been painting a month) maybe another brush would be better for him at the moment.... I'm no expert. .. unlike yours my work proves I'm no expert I was merely trying to help ranger out with what I believed would maybe be best.... never claimed it as fact just offered my opinion
 
go with the cmsb its an awesome gun and you can use the plastic cups for the aztec and they come with lids also collor changes are a breez
 
HCP-draggin said:
The CM-B does not come with a paint cup cap. But, the shape of the cup and the surface tension of the paint mean you will spill a lot less than you think you would. Shy of holding the airbrush up-side down, the paint stays in the cup pretty well. Either way, I definitely wouldn't let something as easily remedied as that keep you from getting a micron. The only people I've seen to say they can't justify a micron, or other airbrushes work almost as well, etc, etc tend to be people who've never used a micron, or used one and just don't have the talent for it to make any difference. I could understand the skepticism if the micron where a brand-new, unproven design, but they'd been THE benchmark for 30+ years. Hype just doesn't stand up that long, so you can be pretty sure there's a reason it's still the "it" brush.
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I've tried to justify a Micron, but haven't yet. Once I find something I can't do with my other brushes, I may be able to justify it.
Maybe I'm just not talented enough to know how to handle one, don't know, time will tell.
Many of us here are helping new users to make a decision based on where they are artistically and how long they have been airbrushing.
Is a Micron a great airbrush? Hell yes it is, my HP-CH is a great brush also. I happen to know that Ranger has been at it for 7-9 months roughly and has tremors from a war injury, so at the current time the Krome is most likely a better fit.
 
i was goofing around with my micron last night it prety much does blow the doors off everything else i have its the way it responds and constantly does fine lines with out getting much tip dry its like the way dave explained it to me on the phone its the suction and of course the chamber were the paint and air mix and the way it atomizes the paint i get super fine detail from the velocity and infinity but there a bit tricky they have to be super clean
 
Plus the fact that if you are detailing you just wont be 'loading' the pot anyway.
 
Thanks everyone for all the input and information. Jagardn is correct, I have been at it about seven months and I do have small hand tremors from a war wound in the head. Fez has always given me good advice so I bought a Krome 2 in 1 that should be delivered this week and I'll see how it works for me. I'm very fortunate to be able to afford any airbrush I want and I want to give myself every chance to be a decent painter so I may try a micron next. Heck, you can never have too many can you? :lemo: I still love my Iwata Eclipse and I am getting better detail from it every time I paint a new project. Thanks again to everyone!!
 
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