Question about the Infinity CR+

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Wan2BCreative

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Since I purchased my Infinity CR+ .15mm that is the only brush I have used. LOVE it! Plan to sell my Badger 360 and get another CR+ with larger needle tip.
I have a question about the CR+ that I hope someone can help with.
When I was using a very small, wet fine hair paint brush to clean the tip-dry off of the needle, I notice air bubbles coming from the op of the tip where the needle exits the nozzle.
I then dipped the very tip of that needle/nozzle into a small cup of water. There are air bubbles being emitted from the nozzle tip even when I am NOT pressing down on the trigger.
Can anyone tell me if this is standard for the Infinity CR+ or do I need to replace something?
 
Since I purchased my Infinity CR+ .15mm that is the only brush I have used. LOVE it! Plan to sell my Badger 360 and get another CR+ with larger needle tip.
I have a question about the CR+ that I hope someone can help with.
When I was using a very small, wet fine hair paint brush to clean the tip-dry off of the needle, I notice air bubbles coming from the op of the tip where the needle exits the nozzle.
I then dipped the very tip of that needle/nozzle into a small cup of water. There are air bubbles being emitted from the nozzle tip even when I am NOT pressing down on the trigger.
Can anyone tell me if this is standard for the Infinity CR+ or do I need to replace something?

Bees wax will fix that . Mainly the regulator cap just screw on metal to metal with no o-ring or seal on them. (talking about most airbrushes here) so put a little hot bees wax around the threads and it will make a good seal.
So use teflon tape but I have found bees wax is cheaper and last a long time even with cleaning.
The air leak when not pressing on the needle sounds like the valve o-ring has either cracked or something has came up through the air hose and has dirt in it
 
Since I purchased my Infinity CR+ .15mm that is the only brush I have used. LOVE it! Plan to sell my Badger 360 and get another CR+ with larger needle tip.
I have a question about the CR+ that I hope someone can help with.
When I was using a very small, wet fine hair paint brush to clean the tip-dry off of the needle, I notice air bubbles coming from the op of the tip where the needle exits the nozzle.
I then dipped the very tip of that needle/nozzle into a small cup of water. There are air bubbles being emitted from the nozzle tip even when I am NOT pressing down on the trigger.
Can anyone tell me if this is standard for the Infinity CR+ or do I need to replace something?

John, if you are getting air being released without the trigger, first check the air valve.
It will unscrew from the body, at the very top of it, there is a brass stem with a bushing. Take a drop of SuperLube or Needle Juice and put a drop of it on the stem and press on it a few times to distribute it.( i was originally going to say shaft, but knowing the people of this forum, I would have taken a beating on that one :) )
If that fails to fix the problem, the H&S Brushes have a brass screw to adjust the trigger tension inside the bottom of the valve, just remove your Quick Disconnect and you will see it. Adjust it as needed to make the problem go away.
I've found that with having the valve stem lubed, it allows you to adjust for a softer trigger action. ( I know, I know....when anything is lubed, it allows for more action. :playful: )
 
So after lubing your stem (aww bless, maybe it was just a bit cold?), you release your tension by having a brass screw?
 
lol taken a beating.... didnt want to get beat off huh

Man, I should get some major points for this one. Giving help and jacking the hell out of the thread in the same post. :)
Maybe some other jacking as well, but that's a bit personal. ;)
 
So after lubing your stem (aww bless, maybe it was just a bit cold?), you release your tension by having a brass screw?

I tried to relieve tension by having a "brass nail" but it was costly and didn't quite hit the mark, ha ha ha
 
Bees wax will fix that . Mainly the regulator cap just screw on metal to metal with no o-ring or seal on them. (talking about most airbrushes here) so put a little hot bees wax around the threads and it will make a good seal.

Thanks Herb. I will definitely try the less expensive method first because I am just "cheap" that way...

John, if you are getting air being released without the trigger, first check the air valve.
It will unscrew from the body, at the very top of it, there is a brass stem with a bushing. Take a drop of SuperLube or Needle Juice and put a drop of it on the stem and press on it a few times to distribute it.( i was originally going to say shaft, but knowing the people of this forum, I would have taken a beating on that one :) )
If that fails to fix the problem, the H&S Brushes have a brass screw to adjust the trigger tension inside the bottom of the valve, just remove your Quick Disconnect and you will see it. Adjust it as needed to make the problem go away.
I've found that with having the valve stem lubed, it allows you to adjust for a softer trigger action. ( I know, I know....when anything is lubed, it allows for more action. :playful: )

Great technical advice, Thank you. I will try this if the simpler beeswax method is unsuccessful.
So I see the thread took a "slight" turn from the topic. I always thought that if I had been jacked then I should feel good, right? But i guess it isn't so on the first "jacking" since I do not yet have any lubricant.
Now a brass nail just sounds painful and I don't think that advice will be accepted.
So I will try the beeswax, or lubricant, and hope I don't get beaten in the process...
 
Man, I should get some major points for this one. Giving help and jacking the hell out of the thread in the same post. :)
Maybe some other jacking as well, but that's a bit personal. ;)

You get 1000 points for helping and 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for also hijacking the thread in the process.....:D
See the clown to collect you earnings:D
 
Thanks Herb. I will definitely try the less expensive method first because I am just "cheap" that way...



Great technical advice, Thank you. I will try this if the simpler beeswax method is unsuccessful.
So I see the thread took a "slight" turn from the topic. I always thought that if I had been jacked then I should feel good, right? But i guess it isn't so on the first "jacking" since I do not yet have any lubricant.
Now a brass nail just sounds painful and I don't think that advice will be accepted.
So I will try the beeswax, or lubricant, and hope I don't get beaten in the process...

If you are leaking air without pressing the trigger, putting beeswax on the threads won't help you. You need to check the tension screw on your air valve. How soft is your trigger when you press down for air? Does it sound like an abrupt on/off when you release the trigger or does it kind of taper a bit? If it taper's you need to tighten the tension screw just a little, or lube the shaft. :)
The H&S CR models have a rubber O-Ring that goes around the neck of the Air Cap at the base of the threads. If you have any issues with spray consistency or bubbles in the paint cup, first thing to do is re-seat that O-Ring(you can get under the edge of it with a toothpick to pull if off and inspect it for damage/wear). You should never really need beeswax on it, it's recommended for most brushes because they don't have seals on the air caps.

Here is a picture of the screw to adjust, this picture is my AL Plus, but they are all the same air valve.
Evolution AL IMG_3354.jpg
 
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You get 1000 points for helping and 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for also hijacking the thread in the process.....:D
See the clown to collect you earnings:D

Man, at least you didn't reference punching the clown, I think that has been hinted toward enough in this thread. :)
 
Man, at least you didn't reference punching the clown, I think that has been hinted toward enough in this thread. :)

I am the ring leader of this asylum , ad fez wanted to be the clown so that is who the clown is from now on:D
 
I don't know but it seems to have taken quite a downward turn very rapidly.:concern:
 
If you are leaking air without pressing the trigger, putting beeswax on the threads won't help you. You need to check the tension screw on your air valve. How soft is your trigger when you press down for air? Does it sound like an abrupt on/off when you release the trigger or does it kind of taper a bit? If it taper's you need to tighten the tension screw just a little, or lube the shaft. :)
The H&S CR models have a rubber O-Ring that goes around the neck of the Air Cap at the base of the threads. If you have any issues with spray consistency or bubbles in the paint cup, first thing to do is re-seat that O-Ring(you can get under the edge of it with a toothpick to pull if off and inspect it for damage/wear). You should never really need beeswax on it, it's recommended for most brushes because they don't have seals on the air caps.

Here is a picture of the screw to adjust, this picture is my AL Plus, but they are all the same air valve.
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Thank you! That did take care of the air leak. I had also noticed the air bubbles in my paint cup that you had mentioned. So I reseated the O'ring as you described. That also helped. Many thanks to you. I figured these issues were simply because I don't know this brush yet. I am glad to find someone who is familiar with this brush.



Wan2BCreative (John)
 
Thank you! That did take care of the air leak. I had also noticed the air bubbles in my paint cup that you had mentioned. So I reseated the O'ring as you described. That also helped. Many thanks to you. I figured these issues were simply because I don't know this brush yet. I am glad to find someone who is familiar with this brush.



Wan2BCreative (John)

No problem. That's what we are here for. I use my H&S brushes a lot and switch needles/nozzles a lot. So if there is a problem, I have likely run into it. The O-Ring one is the most common. My AL plus came with the air set screw all the way tightened. Pressing the trigger for air was hard as hell. If I didn't already have an Infinity, I would have though the airbrush sucked. I don't know why they would ship it that way. Probably tested by a guy that was working late in a Friday thinking about being at the pub.
 
Thank you! That did take care of the air leak. I had also noticed the air bubbles in my paint cup that you had mentioned. So I reseated the O'ring as you described. That also helped. Many thanks to you. I figured these issues were simply because I don't know this brush yet. I am glad to find someone who is familiar with this brush.



Wan2BCreative (John)

If you have a good seal at the Air Cap and a clean nozzle, that thing should spray like a dream. I can tell you that the H&S brushes come close to the performance of a Micron, it's just not quite there.
They can pull real subtle detail, and real fine lines with the right paint reductions, but the Micron smokes them for pulling an ultra fine, high opacity one pass line.
 
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