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[Solved, Krome and Sotar]Recommend an airbrush?

Well, I got a lot of you telling me not to buy a high end airbrush. The reason I wanted to get a high end one was so that I didn't have to spend another $200-$400 in about a year buying a high end airbrush, after buying a decent airbrush for probably like, $150. Anyways, I guess I'll take your guys' word for it. What airbrushes do you guys recommend? I will mainly be working on two surfaces, just normal paper, and shoes once I get better. Yes, I am sticking with this. I know a lot of you guys think I won't stick with it or whatever because I am 12, but I love doing this. I always loved art, and this multiplies my previous love for art by like, 100. I literally cannot get away from my airbrush. Hell, I turned down a trip to West Virginia to go four wheeling so that I can airbrush. Anyways, just let me know below a recommended airbrush. Obviously a dual action, and one that possibly has the ability to switch out needles and such. Thanks again, hope you guys can help me out once again.
 
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Well, I got a lot of you telling me not to buy a high end airbrush. The reason I wanted to get a high end one was so that I didn't have to spend another $200-$400 in about a year buying a high end airbrush, after buying a decent airbrush for probably like, $150. Anyways, I guess I'll take your guys' word for it. What airbrushes do you guys recommend? I will mainly be working on two surfaces, just normal paper, and shoes once I get better. Yes, I am sticking with this. I know a lot of you guys think I won't stick with it or whatever because I am 12, but I love doing this. I always loved art, and this multiplies my previous love for art by like, 100. I literally cannot get away from my airbrush. Hell, I turned down a trip to West Virginia to go four wheeling so that I can airbrush. Anyways, just let me know below a recommended airbrush. Obviously a dual action, and one that possibly has the ability to switch out needles and such. Thanks again, hope you guys can help me out once again.

No one actually says you will give up, but some people do give up, that doesn't mean you are a quitter, it can simply mean it just wasn't for you, so the idea is you don't need to spend too much money to begin with, at least until you yourself are 100% sure that it is your thing.

There is nothing wrong with wanting the best, but my personal advice, certainly if you have $1000 dollars at your disposal, is to buy any mid to top range brush from any of the main manufacturers, Iwata, H&S, Olympos or badger, this should hit you anywhere from $150 to $500, the rest of the money you keep in a pot for spares for your chosen brush and sundries such as paint and substrates, etc.

At the end of the day choice of brush is yours entirely, but as mentioned, the brush doesn't make the artist, the artist makes the brush, if you have no ability, the best brush in the world won't help you, if you do have ability, the worst choice will certainly hold you back.
 
Something that will meet all your needs will be the Badger Krome. You can even get an extra Badger Anthem form big areas or base coats. Or you can even get a Sotar from Amazon for $65 Amazon.com: Badger Air-Brush Co Sotar 2020-2F Large Gravity Feed Airbrush with Fine Head: Arts, Crafts & Sewing

Okay, heres what I am looking to buy:

Createx Illustration Colors - Color Wheel Set #5080 Cost: $114.50

Createx Airbrush Colors 5608 Illustration Base Cost: $16.40

Createx Airbrush Cleaner 32oz Cost: $14.17

Paasche R-75AR Regulator Cost: $22.95

Super Lube, Airbrush Lubricant by Iwata Medea Cost: $9.50

Harder Steenbeck Free Standing Airbrush Holder Cost: $22

Badger Renegade Krome Airbrush w/ Hard Case Cost: $145.96

Badger SOTAR 20/20® Professional Airbrush Cost: $280

Total: $625.37

This sound good for my needs? I have a compressor obviously. Also, both the airbrushes are about $15 more expensive than usual because I added a hose with both of them. This is from Chicago Airbrush Supply. Is there any where else I can get them cheaper? Thanks for your helpful answers.

Edit: Changed to amazon, saved about $200.

 
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i wood not get the sotar first reason it is a high end air brush and i personaly think the krome and velocity are the same i would get a velocity and if the 60 dollar sotar is still there get that if not the 280 should go to paint seriously save the real good brushes for when you get real good so you have something to move up to . if you do realy want a nice gun check out the iwata high line i think theres a model with the same cup as the cmc plus and it also has a mac valve i would get the velocity and an iwata high line or one of there other guns
 
I agree with ferret, dont get the sotar that is $280 - I got the amazon sotar for $70 and my 10 year old loves using it
I am not 100% sure but I think the createx illustration might not be colourfast? I think someone with a bit more knowledge needs to answer that one because I know wicked (from createx) is lightfast AND sticks to materials when heat set, I am not sure about the illustration.
 
I agree with ferret, dont get the sotar that is $280 - I got the amazon sotar for $70 and my 10 year old loves using it
I am not 100% sure but I think the createx illustration might not be colourfast? I think someone with a bit more knowledge needs to answer that one because I know wicked (from createx) is lightfast AND sticks to materials when heat set, I am not sure about the illustration.

Illustration is lightfast. It uses the same pigment as Wicked Detail, the binders in it are just re-wetable. Illustration color can be used anywhere Wicked can as long as it is clear coated.
 
Okay, heres what I am looking to buy:

Createx Illustration Colors - Color Wheel Set #5080 Cost: $114.50

Createx Airbrush Colors 5608 Illustration Base Cost: $16.40

Createx Airbrush Cleaner 32oz Cost: $14.17

Paasche R-75AR Regulator Cost: $22.95

Super Lube, Airbrush Lubricant by Iwata Medea Cost: $9.50

Harder Steenbeck Free Standing Airbrush Holder Cost: $22

Badger Renegade Krome Airbrush w/ Hard Case Cost: $145.96

Badger SOTAR 20/20® Professional Airbrush Cost: $280

Total: $625.37

This sound good for my needs? I have a compressor obviously. Also, both the airbrushes are about $15 more expensive than usual because I added a hose with both of them. This is from Chicago Airbrush Supply. Is there any where else I can get them cheaper? Thanks for your helpful answers.

Edit: Changed to amazon, saved about $200.


Drop the cleaner and by the Airbrush Restorer (made by Createx ) it will break down the dried paint the hides in the nozzle , The nozzle is the most important part to keep clean and free flowing.
Only soak the nozzle in it (you can put the needle in )
The Krome will do everything the Micron can but parts for it cost a lot less so in the long run it saves you money .
At age 12 I wanted to be a Sniper , At age 17 I became a sniper for the Military , at age 25 I finished my degree in engineering and now at age 56 I work as an engineer why no a sniper for a police or swat unit.Because My eye sight started fading as I got older so I no longer can take the open sighted mile shot with out the aid of a scope.
So nothing wrong with having a plan of action and sticking too it. But set goals of where you want to be in 2 years , 5 years and 20 years. and aim to hit those goals.
The only thing stopping you from hitting any goal you set is you.. Remember that and life is great.
 
Well my thought is that you have 2 high end brushes, I would think you only need one. I would keep the Krome for the detail work and I would go with something more versatile with a larger needle .3 or .5 maybe.
I don't think I would go with the Createx Illustration colors, they are much more expensive than other paints that would suit your needs. They are for illustration, something like spectra-Tex or Etac-PS are more for textiles, sneaker and shirts etc. You could use the same paint for the paper painting, you really cannot erase on paper so you do not need an erasable paint. If you want to be able to erase and work work on illustration board, I would go with the Etac-FX paints. These are just my thoughts...hope they help.
 
The Krome AB I believe are made on an as needed basis, they are very rarely in stock. Once you place your order, the order goes to Badger and they make it. I am not sure about your comment regarding sending their manufacturing to china, seem unlikely to me however I sent an email to Ken with that question. once I hear back I will let you know.

I purchased a Krome not that long ago, and I received it within a weeks time so I am not sure why you cannot order and receive a Krome AB?
 
Mainly most place which stock the Krome push Iwata's and only order a small supply of them , unlike the rest of the Badger line which you can pick up at Michael's craft store.
So even thou the demand is up the orders from the vendors are not.

I have to agree with Jeff on your anger issues and threatening Ken or anyone else will not be tolerated .
 
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The Krome AB I believe are made on an as needed basis, they are very rarely in stock. Once you place your order, the order goes to Badger and they make it. I am not sure about your comment regarding sending their manufacturing to china, seem unlikely to me however I sent an email to Ken with that question. once I hear back I will let you know.

I purchased a Krome not that long ago, and I received it within a weeks time so I am not sure why you cannot order and receive a Krome AB?

It's not what you ask, but how you ask, lol
 
What could he possibly do about it? Maybe suspend production indefinitely?... Badger is pissing off its customers with lack of product availability.
It's true that I did destroy my own airbrushes, but I had been wanting a Krome since BEFORE that incident. All other airbrushes of equal or greater quality are far more expensive than the Krome and I cannot afford them. I am stuck because I cannot even replace what I lost and have not been able to airbrush for nearly one year.
Now I came to the forum to see what's up and decided to provide my experience to someone who was MISTAKENLY considering a Badger product. I also provided reasons and a display of how much frustration this can cause. This is my effort in helping to prevent someone from making a mistake and wasting their money.
Now this "will not be tolerated"?

Ken "Badger", if you read this then why don't you meet with me and show me how this "will not be tolerated"! I will show you how a mad Irishman handles these things...

As a business, you do not mass produce products to sit on your shelves. If you do not have places like Coast and Chicago ordering product to keep on their shelves then I would not make the product. I am not clear how you think that is a Badger Issue. When have you ordered anything directly from Badger? Again I purchased my Krome in Feb or March of this year and received it quite quickly. I can understand your frustration, but what have you done to help yourself? Have you emailed Ken himself or called Badger? Try to take a proactive roll in fixing your issue as opposed to getting banned from the forum for posting things out of frustration.
 
Mainly most place which stock the Krome push Iwata's and only order a small supply of them , unlike the rest of the Badger line which you can pick up at Michael's craft store.
So even thou the demand is up the orders from the vendors are not.

I have to agree with Jeff on your anger issues and threatening Ken or anyone else will not be tolerated .

Boy Herb, a forum moderator and a sniper? I will be extra nice from now on:nightmare:. I see you're in Indiana, so I don't have to worry about being within the mile kill zone:friendly_wink:.
 
Boy Herb, a forum moderator and a sniper? I will be extra nice from now on:nightmare:. I see you're in Indiana, so I don't have to worry about being within the mile kill zone:friendly_wink:.

LOL hey I come to Philly too:D so ya never know...
 
And Micron the Mountie always gets his man, lol

LMAO , Anyway lets get this back on track being it was not really a thread hijack but an off the meds person .
Decryptionally you have a great list up there.
Order it up even if it tells you they are out of stock on the Krome they will have it dropped shipped straight from Badger.
I did not have a long wait on my Krome to come in either and it too was listed out of stock .
That is when I learn how the vendors order them .
I do look forward to seeing what you can produce in another 10 years when you are 22...Keep painting
 
My 2 cents on a brush i recommend, Take a look at an Iwata Hp-C plus. It will do everything you need from tight detail to broad shading. It was the first brush i got when i started, and its the first brush i grab to paint today. I can pull just as a fine of line with it as my Krome. Really high end doesnt mean much to me in my personal opinion, because in the end it all about the control you have with it and learning how it works by just spending the time to do so. Yeah id like a micron, but why spend all that money when i can just about do the same with a 1/3 of the cost.
 
I see the Krome as a high end brush, with a low end cost. I have yet to find any Iwata that I could buy for anything close to what you can get the Krome for. I see the Iwata line as just more expensive to purchase and to get spare parts. Not saying they are not as good or better, but If I am going to fork out 200 to 300 dollars for 1 brush, I might as well buy Badger and get 2 possibly 3 brushes for that. I have a Krome and the Vega 2000 total spend $150.00. That's how I chose the brushes I have purchased so far. Just my thoughts, and my opinion is one sided right now since I have never owned an Iwata. :friendly_wink:

But if I can paint like you do VR right out of the box maybe I will get an Iwata....
 
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