Recommend an airbrush?

[airbrushingferret]

amazon seems to always have kromes and i dont know why you just dont get the velocity i have both and i see very little difference only in the coating and trigger if i was anxious right this moment to blow a buck fifty on an air brush i and wanted it fast and there were no kromes available i would get a velocity your just starting out first youy learn to waklk thain you can run as for paints i would definatly get etac private stock they lay down as smooth as there efx line and i haven't noticed any clog issues at all

 

[Mr.Micron]

You know I keep forgetting about Don's site so for that I am sorry Don.
But you want to read a good and honest review on airbrushes and make you own mind up than look here..
https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/
Don really show what they can do .

 

[jgny1]

Ken said I may cut and paste this into the forum. I wanted to go right to the source regarding the statement that was made (now gone)..

The outsourcing rumor could not be more false.
We still make everyone of our airbrushes here in the United States, with components made here in the United States. (Most of them within 20 minutes of our factory.)

We were slammed with orders just ahead of Thanksgiving and are still trying to catch up, that's why the Krome is a difficult find right now. We shipped out a few hundred Kromes just before Christmas, and have about 1200 more in the production process right now - so we'll be caught up relatively soon

 

[Melbee]

Hi Decrypt,
You didn't mention if you already have an airbrush so I'm presuming this will be your first purchase.
For my 2 cents I'd start with an Iwata Eclipse 0.35mm and if you really want to try a dedicated detail airbrush get the Sotar 20/20 from Amazon as well (its very cheap so why not). Once you've used these airbrushes for a while and learned your skills and techniques you can buy a Micron if you think you need it. You can do without a detail airbrush but you can't do without a workhorse airbrush like the Eclipse, it is soooooo much easier to work with when you are starting out and you won't get frustrated like you will with the detail airbrush which tend to be very fussy about paint reductions.

I have an Eclipse side feed HP-SBS with is very versatile and I can do almost anything with it and because it is a side feed I can put different sized cups and bottles on it depending on how much paint I will be using. Heres a YouTube video I made on my Iwata side feeds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UliSlSp_Y50

In this video I use the Sotar 20/20 and I'm showing how I corrected painting too dark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9iGd7P0DMI

I have an Eclipse HP-SBS, an HP-SB+, a Sotar 20/20 and an Olympos Micron and to be honest I really like them all but out of all of them the one I would miss the most would be the Eclipse, it's a fantastic all round airbrush that is very forgiving with paint. It will paint backgrounds as well as give you good detail. A dedicated detail airbrush is only really good for detail and you will always need a workhorse airbrush unless you only paint miniatures If you don't want a side feed then the Eclipse HP-CS 0.35mm gravity feed would be the way to go.

If in the future you decide to stop airbrushing you can sell your Iwata airbrushes and get a reasonable price as they hold their value if they are looked after so don't worry about that. I made the mistake of getting an Iwata HP-SB+ 0.2mm in the beginning and it made learning more difficult till I got the Eclipse HP-SBS 0.35 and then I could really start to paint

This is just my opinion and you have to make up your own mind but for a first airbrush you can't go wrong with an Iwata Eclipse and it will last you an airbrushing lifetime. If you are in the USA I believe you can get a 40% coupon for Hobby Lobby that sell Iwata's and you could buy 2 Mr Micron knows more about that stuff so ask him. I would also look at Etac paints if you can get them.
Good Luck
Mel

 

[m3ntalo]

The free standing holder looks good, but i wouldn't get another one. The "normal" ones to clamp onto the desk are far better imo.

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[Alf]

if you want a good airbrush then krom is wonderfull i bought one with 0,3 and 0,15 neadle and i love it only perfect to make thin lines with miss a gun to make big spraying with but it come for sure :loyal:

 

[Decryptionally]

LMAO , Anyway lets get this back on track being it was not really a thread hijack but an off the meds person .
Decryptionally you have a great list up there.
Order it up even if it tells you they are out of stock on the Krome they will have it dropped shipped straight from Badger.
I did not have a long wait on my Krome to come in either and it too was listed out of stock .
That is when I learn how the vendors order them .
I do look forward to seeing what you can produce in another 10 years when you are 22...Keep painting

Alright, thanks haha. So I should drop the base and cleaner correct, and get the rest? What about cleaner, another recommendation or should I use water or what? Also, shouldn't I thin the paint? Or is it fine? Thanks.

 

[Mr.Micron]

Alright, thanks haha. So I should drop the base and cleaner correct, and get the rest? What about cleaner, another recommendation or should I use water or what? Also, shouldn't I thin the paint? Or is it fine? Thanks.

Get the Airbrush restorer , That is for giving the nozzle a good cleaning.
The Illustration base is paint with no pigment , It is used to make a color more transparent. I use it a lot to make some transparent colors .So that one is up to you . But it is not for thinning the paint it is a paint itself so you still have to thin the paint when you mix color into it.
Get W500 to reduce the paint or W100 these are the thinners (Reducer) for the paints you have chosen.
if you are talking about color wash out during color changes , You can use water or home brew which for an 8 ounce mix would be 2 ounces of alcohol and 6 ounces of water. it is cheaper to make and works just as good as the airbrush cleaner.

 

[Decryptionally]

Get the Airbrush restorer , That is for giving the nozzle a good cleaning.
The Illustration base is paint with no pigment , It is used to make a color more transparent. I use it a lot to make some transparent colors .So that one is up to you . But it is not for thinning the paint it is a paint itself so you still have to thin the paint when you mix color into it.
Get W500 to reduce the paint or W100 these are the thinners (Reducer) for the paints you have chosen.
if you are talking about color wash out during color changes , You can use water or home brew which for an 8 ounce mix would be 2 ounces of alcohol and 6 ounces of water. it is cheaper to make and works just as good as the airbrush cleaner.

Thanks. I switched out the illustration with Wicked. I already have the paint for the shoes though, just need paint for paper as the shoe paint is meant for leather only. This should be good right? Is there a cheaper yet good option? Wicked is about $200 for the full 39 set.

 

[Wan2BCreative]

As a business, you do not mass produce products to sit on your shelves. If you do not have places like Coast and Chicago ordering product to keep on their shelves then I would not make the product. I am not clear how you think that is a Badger Issue. When have you ordered anything directly from Badger? Again I purchased my Krome in Feb or March of this year and received it quite quickly. I can understand your frustration, but what have you done to help yourself? Have you emailed Ken himself or called Badger? Try to take a proactive roll in fixing your issue as opposed to getting banned from the forum for posting things out of frustration.

jgny1,
I was searching for the post which contained the quote that you replied with. I cannot find it anywhere, but that is not the issue.
The quote you posted from dartvader sounds very much like the dude I bought my Badger 360 from. All he talked about was wanting a Krome and he mentioned something about a prior incident with his previous air brushes. The problem is that I cannot remember his name. I never asked to see any of his "older" airbrushes and I am now REALLY hoping that he did not sell me the 360 which he had his incident with.

 

[RebelAir]

If you can, I still believe the best bit of advice is to walk into a decent art shop that stock various airbrushes and actually feel the difference in the guns..Some may feel to heavy for eg, some not balanced and for any airbrush artist to find their perfect gun it really comes down to personal fit and what feels comfortable for you..I say this because you can throw a wad of money on a gun because you believe the higher pricing means better..it doesn't.That gun may feel uncomfortable for you and no amount of money will change that..If you can get a feel of it prior to purchasing one you will at least be buying something you feel comfortable with and in airbrushing that comfort factor is critical..Personally i use a Badger 155 with the fine line conversion kit which I feel very comfortable holding and throwing around..Ultimately I have seen great and sometimes even better work coming out of peeps who have a midrange brand name gun in comparison to some that use the higher end guns..and btw both of my midrange badgers have lasted close to 10 years and are still spraying like day one even though I do abuse them at times...Gun choice is such a personal thing thus regulary these topics have a hundred responses as every artist feels what they do well with is the best, but that may not be for others that have used the same one..Comfort, comfort, comfort LOL..GL with what ya get..

 

[MeeshellMP]

Badger Krome. LOVE IT!