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Second Brush to pair with Iwata Eclipse

Discussion in 'Beginners help' started by Reciprocity75, May 21, 2020 at 5:49 PM.


  1. Reciprocity75

    Reciprocity75 Young Tutorling

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    Hi all,

    New forum member and asking my first question, so I thought I should place this in the beginners section. I have been using my Iwata Eclipse with mostly good success for the past year or so. I paint RC car bodies, both lexan and hard bodies. For the lexan bodies, I have been using createx wicked paints, which work fairly well but do tend to flake off a bit easier than the dedicated tamiya PS paints, but I still like the control and color mixing possibilities. For the hard bodies, I have been using both the createx and tamiya acrylics (not mixing them) with good success.

    Recently I have noticed that my 0.35mm setup (I have both the 0.35mm and 0.50mm setups for it) I have been getting some poor results or improper paint flow. My tamiya acrylics started to create a lot of whispy type overspray (almost like small fibers of paint) and then last night the paint would not spray and the air just bubbled into the paint cup. Pretty sure the nozzle is the culprit. Not sure if it is just not seating properly or is cracked. The nozzle is tight so I left that alone. I looked through a magnifying glass and I did see a small scratch across the seating area, but I am not sure if that is cause of the failure. When I switched to my 0.50mm setup, everything worked as it should. I will be ordering a new nozzle to start trying to fix the issue with the 0.35mm setup.

    Now to my actual question. I am contemplating adding a second airbrush to my setup so that I can leave one with a larger needle setup for large coverage (some of the bodies are 15 inches in length and require a large volume of paint to cover) and have a second brush dedicated for the more fine details, small areas, interior painting, etc. I was thinking of adding another Eclipse with the 0.35mm setup to have both and be done with it. But then I started investigating other options from Iwata, H&S, etc and have confounded my plan and am looking for some advise from the group.

    As I stated, I was looking at a second Eclipse but then I started wondering if a smaller needle would be a better compliment to the 0.50mm eclipse? The paints that I use should still work with the smaller needle size, but I am not sure if it is necessary. Sometimes I did wish for a bit more control from the eclipse, but that is mostly likely my inexperience rather than the needle size.

    I was looking at a second Eclipse, a HP-C plus, a hi-line, and a H&S evolution or Infinity. Not sure about the H&S as I have never held one much less used one. I am pretty comfortable with the Iwata. Are there other brushes that I should consider?

    Thanks in advance.

    Tim
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  2. DaveG

    DaveG Airbush Analyst Very Likeable!

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    Hi, and welcome to the forum!

    Just me, but if you are good with the Eclipse, I would look into adding another with a .5 set up. The Eclipse is capable of doing some mighty fine detail, one you learn to really master them. Better to have two brushes that you know, than adding one that will require relearning on.

    Now, after you get your second Eclipse setup, you can then add something different ;). That way learning a different brush won't take away from your production abilities. With that in mind, I will mention perhaps taking a look at the Procon Creos brushes, such as the PS270, PS289, and the likes. High quality Japanese brushes (made in the same factory as the Eclipse) at a lot lower price. Spraygunner.com carries a good bit of the line.
  3. Reciprocity75

    Reciprocity75 Young Tutorling

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    DaveG,

    Yes, this was my thought. I have a 0.50mm set in my current eclipse and by adding the second brush, i would have one of each 0.35mm and 0.50mm without needing to swap parts. You make a good point about not learning a new brush. I am an amateur at best and adding complexity is most likely not the way to go. Thanks for the suggestions.
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  4. SiRoxx

    SiRoxx Party Boy UK Style Staff Member Mod Very Likeable!

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    I’ll second what Dave has said, getting another Eclipse with the .35 setup would be great. But if you fancy a little change of pace, the HP-C is good for some medium coverage and some great detail too. I also second his suggestion of looking at the Creos range of brushes. I have a couple of them and the quality / performance is equivalent to my Iwata’s. In my hands anyway LOL.
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    Reciprocity75 Young Tutorling

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    SiRoxx,

    Thanks for the comments. Seems that another Eclipse should be my next step. Having the two brushes with interchangeable parts will be a good pairing.

    Thanks again.
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    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

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    Thats one reason i have 99% iwata brushes, minimal spare parts required :)
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    huskystafford Needle chucking Ninja Staff Member Admin Very Likeable!

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    Very usefull, cause their parts are so expensive :D

    Jokes aside. I started with eclipse Bcs 0.5, and moved to eclipse sbs 0.3

    The one reason was, eclipse is ''hard'' to destroy and I can go from low budget to less friendly budget airbrushes while I am learning about airbrushing and about airbrushes. There is so many ''tricks'' within airbrushing , that I felt, it would be wise decision to start at ''solid bottom'' and move up as the time goes and I learn more about it. I still wanna try eclipse gravity one, just cause I am curious, even if I feel side feed would be better suited for me.

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