spray gun size ( hvlp)

[AirPicaso]

Hi Im slowly gathering up equipment to start my small shop in my house. I want to custom airbrush small items like helmets, goalie masks , bike tanks etc. I want to use Createx auto air , wicked , autobourne and candy2o. I am looking at now purchasing a gravity feed hvlp spray gun too lay down primers , base coats and candy colours. I was wondering if anyone here could help me with info on what would be a good needle and nozzle tip size to spray these products with ? I will not be spraying clear coats and would rather have it done at a paint shop. I do not have a good enough ventilation set up for clears. What would you all recommend ? thanks

 

[markjthomson]

...any idea of budget...?

 

[Mr.Micron]

I always suggest to look at what the paint mfg suggest for needle nozzle sizes when choosing a spray gun .
on average 1.2 is a good all round set up but I the mini sata I bought came with 4 set ups ranging from 1.0-1.6 . I have used the 1.6 on medium sized flake .

 

[J000seph]

Here's a link to some videos about Auto Air. Some great info.

http://www.smdesigns.co.uk/

Most guys seem to favor the Iwata lph-80 for small stuff like helmets, and the Iwata lph-400 for big stuff.

There's a live feed video on Coast Airbrush Facebook page at Createx. They confirmed that they had better results with the lph-400 than the more expensive Supernova even with same tip size.

 

[J000seph]

 

[JackEb]

The 4020 automotive reducer (mentioned in picture above) should only be used in a professional booth and with the appropriate respirator. Not in a home studio !

 

[jord001]

Simon Murray uses an Iwata LPH80 to spray his sealers and flakes, not sure of the needle size but they are not a cheap gun.

Lee

 

[Nada]

I use a 1.2 setup for autobourne sealer. And was pretty cheap. I dont do auto clears at home either. I do not remember tip size on my clear gun, but it only sprays clearcoat... Never use it for anything else.

On the bright side for your sealers/primers you really can get away with an inexpensive gun.

 

[J000seph]

The 4020 automotive reducer (mentioned in picture above) should only be used in a professional booth and with the appropriate respirator. Not in a home studio !

The 4020 just happened to be on the same page of the tech sheet showing the spray gun tip sizes. But yes, 4020 is a "hot" reducer (contains acetone).

 

[JackEb]

The 4020 just happened to be on the same page of the tech sheet showing the spray gun tip sizes. But yes, 4020 is a "hot" reducer (contains acetone).

I was just making sure any newbies don't suddenly jump onto the thought that 4020 is a preferred reducer for createx illustration, that's all

 

[Nada]

I was just making sure any newbies don't suddenly jump onto the thought that 4020 is a preferred reducer for createx illustration, that's all

Why not... They sell it at hobby lobby now..

 

[JackEb]

That doesn't surprise me at all @Nada but I bet the sales person doesn't point out the fine print or health implications if the warnings aren't followed

 

[AirPicaso]

Awesome information everyone thank you so much. I am looking for a more economical spray gun , $150 give or take. I will now look for one that is hopefully with a included selection of one or two different tip/needle sizes. I have collected some materials to build a medium to large sized table top spray booth with a 560 cfm blower fan in it so I may try the 4020 reducer with acetone in it , I do live in a colder climate where I think it could come in handy. To start I will use the 4012 just because it is not as harmfull. Again thanks for the advice everyone on the tip/ needle size for a gun.

 

[J000seph]

Awesome information everyone thank you so much. I am looking for a more economical spray gun , $150 give or take. I will now look for one that is hopefully with a included selection of one or two different tip/needle sizes. I have collected some materials to build a medium to large sized table top spray booth with a 560 cfm blower fan in it so I may try the 4020 reducer with acetone in it , I do live in a colder climate where I think it could come in handy. To start I will use the 4012 just because it is not as harmfull. Again thanks for the advice everyone on the tip/ needle size for a gun.

I have one of these:


Works with a small compressor. I think I paid 30 bucks maybe. It's made by California Air Tools.

 

[JackEb]

and if you are going down the 4020 route, then make sure the blower motor is sealed, the slightest spark and you could be in a world of pain, and fire.....
they put the warning on the bottles for a reason !

 

[AirPicaso]

and if you are going down the 4020 route, then make sure the blower motor is sealed, the slightest spark and you could be in a world of pain, and fire.....
they put the warning on the bottles for a reason !

The room will be heated so the need for using 4020 because of the cooler climate here wont be needed. I don't think I will honestly need to even use 4020 for my work, 4012 will be fine enough, I did a bunch of reading on it. thanks

 

[JackEb]

no worries, I worry too much sometimes. everyone seems to just grab and run with a product and don't think too much about it. I just like to make sure everyone is safe

 

[AirPicaso]

no worries, I worry too much sometimes. everyone seems to just grab and run with a product and don't think too much about it. I just like to make sure everyone is safe

Thanks JackEb, you are right , 4020 is full of acetone and the blower I have is like a Dayton blower fan. The motor is on the outside of the fan unit so it doesn't come in contact with the exhaust but it still is not a fire proof unit . I wanted to go with HOK or Inspire but that would be a major hazard lmao so instead it will be createx products at least the safe hopefully non flammable createx products. I will have to research it more, I imagine 4020 is not the only hazardous product they make