The Paasche 'Turbine'

[Artista]

Hello all, (sorry-Its been too long since my last visit)

My question ,,is the Paasche 'Turbine' airbrush considered passé these days due to current airbrush technology, or is it still held in high regards?

Im searching for an airbrush for use in fine detailed paintings ..such as for portraiture and the like....

When i was a kid I always WANTED to have to Turbine although my (now vintage) Thayer and Chandlers did great from me back then.
I use a Paasche 'Talon' currently but was hoping to find something much more versatile for said artwork . Any suggestions ??
Thanks art brothers and sisters :topsy_turvy:

 

[ad fez]

I think the turbo is one of the best....a member who used to be on here named ignis did alot of study in to the pasche turbo and produced some really incredible art with it. ...I think he as most people who have used them say its a dream when flowing nicely butit can be a bit finicky as it has more variables

 

[ulltraz]

my friend i did the question long ago and ignis answered me,here is the thread:http://www.airbrushforum.org/airbrushes/4850-some-word-paasche-turbo.html

also you have a very fine airbrush with the talon,i own one,in the nest days am going to make a thread about it so take your time before making any decision about any airbrush!!!:angel:

 

[Tsunami airbrush]

The turbo is a beautiful piece of art in a beautiful form and innovative for its time.
But, it has a great basic defect, its particular form given by the turbine creates an imbalance of the pen that after hours of work becomes very annoying.
Secondly, as for many airbrushes also present in the trigger far behind the tip, this makes much more extensive movements of the hand and you have to get used to and to be very careful when using it.
Another disadvantage is the microscopic needle, to disassemble it takes a pair of tweezers and is very fragile.
This airbrush I used it in 1990 to art school makes thin lines but for me it is the only value, was used to make photo retouch.
I do not recommend buying this airbrush.
What I always say to buy an airbrush is what I need?
If you want a gun that makes the fine lines you just need an airbrush that has a needle size 0.2. I have a iwata hp-b plus that with 0.7 psi and color very diluted track lines for a little over a tenth of a millimeter, is very durable and inexpensive. Most of my work I've done with it.
Alberto Ponno made ​​known to me the Paasche VJR1 first model now discontinued, I bought the last one available in Europe, a real stroke of luck.
It 'an airbrush incredible track invisible lines and atomizes as I had never seen.

 

[Tsunami airbrush]

Although it is to be modified in some of its imperfections, but it solved these do amazing things, just see the works of the great master Ponno.
If you find you have a piece of history in your hand.
This airbrush two advantages that all other airbrushes not year.
1 - in the trigger close to the tip. Think of a pen, when you write keep your fingers near the tip of the pen or in the middle?
I freehand drawing with his arms resting on the table this makes the hand movements and very precisewith this spray gun can do tiny details without the aid of templates.




2 - all the modern airbrushes have the rear wheel needle adjustment, what is aesthetically beautiful but useless in the Extras application.
This is because if you block the needle to 1mm from the choke, after a while that gets clogged duse the colors and the color does not go out at this point you are forced to stop, readjust the opening and start again until the next pit stop , is unnerving and at the end as we all no longer use the needle adjustment.
With the VJR1 this never happens because it has the adjustment wheel front that pushes the needle back and leaves him free, so if it gets dirty enough to choke a tap and needle recedes a little and avoids the pit stop and wins the race

 

[Tsunami airbrush]

This is an exercise that made ​​me do alberto to train to make the tiny details, write your name in a millimeter.
Repeat hundreds of times.

 

[steven88]

This is an exercise that made ​​me do alberto to train to make the tiny details, write your name in a millimeter.
Repeat hundreds of times.

That's a good exercise tip! Thanks.

 

[Tsunami airbrush]

From experience I suggest you use the range iwata for its versatility, durability and ease in obtaining spare parts.
Then there's another world on the colors that enhance the performance of your airbrush, as special spirits of racing cars but that's another story ....
Try the iwata hp-b plus without air regulator tip is useless, and you'll thank me.

 

[Tsunami airbrush]

This makes you realize the difference in distance tip / trigger 4 different manufacturers.

 

[elvgren]

Nice words about old good Turbo AB. I’ve got my first in ’69. In those days I've used mainly EFBE 0,15, that was excellent tool but too fast for extreme precision.Lost few months to learn how to set up it correctly and remain in love with it until today. It is the only gun that permits you to work slowly with extremely fine spraying and different controls. I have owned more than twenty in my life and sold my last one (mint ’51 model, and yes, they were of better quality once) a year ago as I have reduced my airbrush garage to only Olympos models, and the use of airbrush to a lower level. Well tuned it remains the most versatile tool for free spraying and most precise gun ever made as you can easily shape even the needle for particular needs. Then, it remains much easier to clean and there are no gaskets in it. The only thing to do is lubrificate the turbine bearings once a year. The weak point is its arm that support needle as it is welded in a small surface and easy to rift. For the rest it was and itis still (though it is out of production now) one of the greatest airbrushes in the history.

 

[HCP-draggin]

The Paasche turbo is a bit of a relic, but it is a vestige of a time when Paasche made some of the best airbrushes in the world (the new ones, like many other things, just aren't as good as they used to be).

That said, the Turbo is capable of insanely fine detail, but is also very capable of driving an artist insane getting it set up, and keeping it set up right. You really need to use it with inks or paints with extremely fine pigment grinds. With most paints, you might as well be trying to spray mud through it.

It's definitely a unique and very cool airbrush. And, if you can tame it, extremely capable. Just plan on spending more time adjusting this or that than actually doing any painting.