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Clutch
Needle-chuck Ninja
I just want to add to the speed of doing your painting... I find when i do my practice movements I am really light with them. When i spray paint on a piece of art I am really light on it. Going too dark too fast is like hitting a brick wall at 100KMH/MPH. also blasting paint at 45 psi onto a hard surface is prolly not a great idea.. on textiles and such its just fine but on a hard surface you are going to be really unhappy unless you are spraying it very very lightly. I have a bad habit of the too dark too fast thing so I have tried to lighten it up. A LOT
Alkimyst
Double Actioner
Thanks @huskystafford and @clutch for the tips. Appreciated.
Yeah, the paper towel practice is boring, but I have more fun with that than with the newsprint flipchart lower-pressure practice; I do both, warming up with drawn out lines (usually just like Daniel shows it), then I do vertical and horizontal lines (assisted and unassisted with a finger post - to work on that freehand shakiness), and then I either do shapes with fades, or daggers or both. Then I go off on the paper towels. I have a good time and I know why: it's easier to flow at higher pressures and absorbent materials. Just recently, I picked up a book on sign painting from the library to see how different styles are done, so that's been inspiring and informative as well.
My biggest struggles thus far (since I stopped using india inks to practice - which is what I started with in Feb and switching to Createx) is getting the paint to spray consistently without sudden blow outs... I'll be going along fine for a few loops or lines and then... ffffttt!!! small spider out of nowhere or my pencil thin line suddenly gets fat and fuzzy... Tip dry, yeah - but that's not the biggest annoyance. I've got in-line filters (moto-guard and a regulated moisture trap downstream, as well as an end of the line airbrush hose inline filter) and still this happens. I even had a coalescing filter set up, thinking it might be oil vapour from the silent compressor getting in the line, but the moto-guard filter made that redundant and it didn't seem to make a difference anyway.
I'll re-read the posts that @Ronald art made about psi and paint, but I think I'm in the right zone for the Iwata HPCS and BCS (higher, for the latter, per Iwata's specs), but I struggle with consistency and spraying lightly. I also figured out that it's waaaay harder to paint Daniel's "hands" exercise at 8.5 x 11" size vs. on a 2 x 2 foot sheet... Yeah.
BTW: just watched a documentary on an old Tattoo artist, named Norman "Sailor Jerry" Collins
: Hori Smoku Sailor Jerry The Life of Norman K Collins Documentary (I'll bet my Paasche Talon 
you guys know who this is...). It's pretty fascinating and the intro song is hilarious. Anyway, it got me thinking about lettering ideas and that led to paper-towel practice of 'tattoo style' letters and stuff, but the blow-outs... grrrr.
I'll see if I can post some pics.
Cheers guys!
Yeah, the paper towel practice is boring, but I have more fun with that than with the newsprint flipchart lower-pressure practice; I do both, warming up with drawn out lines (usually just like Daniel shows it), then I do vertical and horizontal lines (assisted and unassisted with a finger post - to work on that freehand shakiness), and then I either do shapes with fades, or daggers or both. Then I go off on the paper towels. I have a good time and I know why: it's easier to flow at higher pressures and absorbent materials. Just recently, I picked up a book on sign painting from the library to see how different styles are done, so that's been inspiring and informative as well.
My biggest struggles thus far (since I stopped using india inks to practice - which is what I started with in Feb and switching to Createx) is getting the paint to spray consistently without sudden blow outs... I'll be going along fine for a few loops or lines and then... ffffttt!!! small spider out of nowhere or my pencil thin line suddenly gets fat and fuzzy... Tip dry, yeah - but that's not the biggest annoyance. I've got in-line filters (moto-guard and a regulated moisture trap downstream, as well as an end of the line airbrush hose inline filter) and still this happens. I even had a coalescing filter set up, thinking it might be oil vapour from the silent compressor getting in the line, but the moto-guard filter made that redundant and it didn't seem to make a difference anyway.
I'll re-read the posts that @Ronald art made about psi and paint, but I think I'm in the right zone for the Iwata HPCS and BCS (higher, for the latter, per Iwata's specs), but I struggle with consistency and spraying lightly. I also figured out that it's waaaay harder to paint Daniel's "hands" exercise at 8.5 x 11" size vs. on a 2 x 2 foot sheet... Yeah.
BTW: just watched a documentary on an old Tattoo artist, named Norman "Sailor Jerry" Collins
you guys know who this is...). It's pretty fascinating and the intro song is hilarious. Anyway, it got me thinking about lettering ideas and that led to paper-towel practice of 'tattoo style' letters and stuff, but the blow-outs... grrrr.I'll see if I can post some pics.
Cheers guys!
Alkimyst
Double Actioner
Got it.
Makes sense.
Alkimyst
Double Actioner
Here you go. Paper towel practice.... Notice that my tattoo girl attempt looks like a bad Diana Ross lookalike who cried alot... 
And Dave, showing his approval..."Yeah, I'll sleep on it."
Have a good night/day!
Cheers, Al
And Dave, showing his approval..."Yeah, I'll sleep on it."
Have a good night/day!
Cheers, Al
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Padre
Gravity Guru
There's an old saying in another hobby of mine.
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
Related to AB, if it takes you x time to do something accurately. Takes someone else less time to do it sloppy. Sloppy guy will need more time to clean up his sloppy work. While you're onto the next phase. And you've used less paint than sloppy has wasted
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
Related to AB, if it takes you x time to do something accurately. Takes someone else less time to do it sloppy. Sloppy guy will need more time to clean up his sloppy work. While you're onto the next phase. And you've used less paint than sloppy has wasted
Alkimyst
Double Actioner
Thanks Padre, got it. (I think we have the same other hobby... just been about a year since I've been to practice )I'll keep that saying in mind going forward - makes sense: it's targeting, smoothness, and repeatable consistency we're after here too.
In today's session, I slowed down and took my time, and shot some straight india ink through the Iwata BCS .5mm nozzle with a side cup on the same newsprint paper ~30psi to compare the spidering issue; used the G-mac valve as well to go up and down and see what happens.
At every pressure - no problems, no sudden spiders and enjoyed the practice again, due to less frustration and stoppage. So, I'm thinking I have a createx paint consistency issue that I need to get dialed... Guess I'll save the createx for the higher pressure, towel / t-shirt practice for now.
Cheers!
