For Every Airbrush Artist!

Ready to get involved? Register for free and you won't see any google advertising!

Register

Normal cleaning then using Airbrush restorer to show what was still in the brush

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting!' started by basepaint, Sep 26, 2015.


  1. Jezurus

    Jezurus Gravity Guru

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2015
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    247
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    East Tennessee
    I have the same problem, any paint, any mixture/reduction, after a couple minutes my nice fine lines start spitting and clogging, I clean the tip, blow it out, same deal every time, now short of cleaning out the airbrush every five minutes I'm kinda at a loss, the only variable I can think of is my cheap compressor "pulses" when painting a line you can see the paint get lighter and darker, thicker and thinner with the pulse of the comp. could this be the prob? I've got the pressure switch cranked to where the comp will stay on about the whole time im spraying, which is gonna burn it up, but that won't be a loss":whistling: then I can get a new one! Sorry for hi jacking the thread...:rolleyes:
  2. Mr. Magoo

    Mr. Magoo Spider Splatterer

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2016
    Messages:
    137
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Somewhere in Florida
    Not likely the compressor, but possible because I have a large commercial comp. and getting the same problems. I think I've solved some of them by doing a complete tear-down and cleaning with xylene -- man does that stuff remove dried water-base paints. Like someone above wrote, "you only think you got it clean." Remember, which something so small and precise as the air assemblies of these high end tools, even fibers from a Q-Tip swab can cause these prollems.

    If you haven't Already, try doing a "surgically clean" solvent cleaning and see if you don't get some improvement. Just keep the solvent out of the trigger assembly.
  3. Squishy

    Squishy Queen Clown Slayer Mod

    Joined:
    May 8, 2012
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    8,705
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Hampshire South Coast UK
    Urethane thinner does the trick nicely, especially if you have teflon seals. But only use it when its absolutely necessary, after using it a few times I couldn't understand why I was still having issues and was told that too much use can leave a film layer that can be left behind after evaporation that builds up over time.. How true this is I don't know as people use it on big guns all the time, but maybe airbrushes being more precise are affected. Anyway all I know is I used restorer, no paint came out, put it in a sonic cleaner, again - there was no paint residue left behind, so I hadn't missed anything, but it worked just fine afterwards.

    Also if you use thinners, make sure you are thorough, it will turn any paint into a sticky gummy mess that you don't want left behind.

    Now I just use W50o after every clean up, a back flush if needed and then dump out and run a bit through to check the spray pattern, and it keeps everything in tip top shape.
    Mr. Magoo likes this.
  4. jagardn

    jagardn Airbrush Acquisition Disorder Patient Elite Member!

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    3,033
    Likes Received:
    2,473
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Sarasota FL
    That's what I've been doing. After normal flush/backflush with Denatured Alcohol and Water, I put about 5 drops in the cup and rock the trigger a few times so it can make contact with all parts of the nozzle. Let it sit for 5-10 and blow it out at around 50psi into my cleaning pot. It's kept nozzle obstructions down big time.
    basepaint and Squishy like this.
  5. Squishy

    Squishy Queen Clown Slayer Mod

    Joined:
    May 8, 2012
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    8,705
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Hampshire South Coast UK
    I forgot to mention upping the airpressure, but I do that too :)
    basepaint likes this.
  6. Mr. Magoo

    Mr. Magoo Spider Splatterer

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2016
    Messages:
    137
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Somewhere in Florida
    I keep the solvent well away from the trigger ass'y, and I only intend to do this when it needs it. As for residue, I don't even see any on the chromed brush. Being water soluble the xylene residue washes away.

    Been using xylene on hairy art brushes for years and in my opinion there is nothing better. Kind to most plastics, too.
  7. Squishy

    Squishy Queen Clown Slayer Mod

    Joined:
    May 8, 2012
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    8,705
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Hampshire South Coast UK
    I haven' t used Xylene before, this is for cleaning surgical and dentistry equipment right? Sounds like a good option, and not something would have thought of :)

    The point I was making about residue of Urethane thinners is that you can't see any residue, so it looks clean and all good. But I was told by a paint guy that it might be enough to stop a precision instrument like an AB working properly. How true this is - *shrugs* - but it worked as good as new after.

    But I just stick to the W500, only need a tiny amount, it's something I have anyway, and as I get the big bottle, is cheap to use. But not everyone uses it so the xylene sounds like a good option for people who use water etc to reduce.
    Mr. Magoo likes this.
  8. Jezurus

    Jezurus Gravity Guru

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2015
    Messages:
    478
    Likes Received:
    247
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    East Tennessee
    Thanks for the reply! Un fortunately we have three furry children, and one long haired human son:D! So I have hair everywhere all the time, we clean and vacuum, but, Chihuahua hair, wiener dog hair, and Chiweinie dog hair, it's about warm enough to move back out to the garage! So maybe I can get away from most of the fuzz and hair!
    Mr. Magoo likes this.
  9. Mr. Magoo

    Mr. Magoo Spider Splatterer

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2016
    Messages:
    137
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Location:
    Somewhere in Florida
    Ah, so you're a fellow brush artist. Nice work on that pink rose. My painting is on small objects like boxes and canes. I often do roses that are only an inch in diameter so they have to be more impressionistic than realistic.

    Quite by accident I discovered that xylene dissolves dry acrylic and so I started using it to restore old art brushes. You know how brushes accumulate dried paint up around the ferrule until the brush becomes totally stiff and unusable. Well, xylene will soften that dried muck so that it can be raked out and the brush restored. I thought so why not try it in the airbrush?

    Dog hair, really? Can't imagine how that gets into an airbrush, but that points up the importance of a good air filter on our compressors. Fortunately, mine came with not one, but two paper filters measured in microns filtration, so I"m not getting anything that way. I guess I need to be more careful about what I use to clean the cup out. Will a paper towel leave fibers that can clog? Maybe best to rinse the cup AFTER wiping it out with whatever we use to do that.
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2016
  10. Patrick Van Laere

    Patrick Van Laere Gravity Guru

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    122
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    BELGIUM
    i have also used this urethane thinners lately after I used the white schmincke Airo color in my brush, this could not be cleaned with the airbrush cleaner.
    but can the use of this urethane thinners not give problems after a long time?
    basepaint likes this.
  11. basepaint

    basepaint Air-Valve Autobot!

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    5,947
    Likes Received:
    5,951
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    west virgina
    There Thinners so they can cause some problems Mostly from fumes being inhaled if you dont use a spray pot to spray into when you clean up, Also some Thinners are not good for rubber seals and O rings and they will swell or sometimes it drys them out so they get hard and break
  12. Vladimir

    Vladimir Detail Decepticon!

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    1,044
    Likes Received:
    783
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Ukraine, Kiev
    I use only urethane paints reduced by big amount of the thinner. Paint can sit literally for weeks inside the AB and nothing happens to it.
    Thinner can affect only the things mentioned by @basepaint in the post above. If you work carefully and your ABs are well maintained, there's no chance for the thinners to get to the parts of the tool that can be harmed by its action. I haven't changed any rubber seal for the reason of being spoiled by the thinners in the period of 10 years I have airbrushes.
    doc1 and basepaint like this.
  13. Patrick Van Laere

    Patrick Van Laere Gravity Guru

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    122
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    BELGIUM
    thanks for your reply! I think that the use of tinners will be less harmful than the use of the restorer.
    and I use tinner only if the paint settles in the cup and not become clean with airbrush cleaner.
  14. Vladimir

    Vladimir Detail Decepticon!

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    1,044
    Likes Received:
    783
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Location:
    Ukraine, Kiev
    For me it's hard to say if the restorer is less or more harmful for the reason I do not have it and have no clue what's it consist of:)
    I have my way of cleaning the ABs and need no restorer, I've chosen the chemicals that work for me just great.
    basepaint likes this.
  15. PJV

    PJV Double Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2017
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Australia
    I do have a little restorer left have to get more but I have seen on YouTube they make there from windex I never used it as I have read it that wrecks the airbrush
  16. JackEb

    JackEb The Dragon Hunter Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Messages:
    8,139
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Mt Barker, South Australia
    Restorer is reusable, get some Decor sauce/condiment pots from Coles/woolies, fill 1/4 - 1/3rd with restorer. Carefully pop the nozzle in there to soak- put the lid on so if you happen to knock it you won’t lose the nozzle.

    When your done soaking it, just remove the nozzle, leave the liquid in the closed pot for next time. I’ve had my pot for 5 years and I’ve only topped it up once.
    ilzeairbrushing likes this.
  17. PJV

    PJV Double Actioner

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2017
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Australia
    Th
    thanks pal

Share This Page